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HDRoberts
March 11th, 2009, 04:17 PM
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Battle lines drawn as pro-union bill enters Congress

WASHINGTON (AFP) — Democrats in Congress introduced hotly disputed pro-union legislation backed by President Barack Obama Tuesday, setting the stage for a battle royal with Republicans and big business.

One of the most avowedly liberal bills yet of this Democratic-led Congress, the "Employee Free Choice Act" would make it easier for trades unions to get workplace recognition by eliminating a secret ballot among workers.

Instead, a majority of workers would need to sign a card declaring their desire for union recognition by their employers -- which, critics say, would raise the prospect of coercion by union leaders.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jCaqKS_oq8HD5MIph14-vchQOeqw

I am completely against this. Secret ballot is a foundation of the US. Why is that so wrong? Just what people need, union organizers standing over you while you vote on unionization.
msmith198025
March 11th, 2009, 04:53 PM
I am against unions anyway, and even moreso with this
fallout2600
March 11th, 2009, 05:35 PM
Is it just me or does it seem like unions help create the sense of entitlement and contribute to the dumbing down of our society? Seems to me that work merit doesn't mean jack if you work in a union...
vurbano
March 11th, 2009, 05:55 PM
We all knew this would pass if Obama was elected. Yet you people still voted for him.
Madtown HD Junkie
March 11th, 2009, 05:58 PM
agreed, Unions have outlived there usefulness. This whole non-secret vote thing is absolute BS also.
dantheman77
March 11th, 2009, 06:10 PM
oh what is the the 1900's or whatever, you think some thug will be standing over a worker threating to bust his kneecaps??
msmith198025
March 11th, 2009, 06:59 PM
oh what is the the 1900's or whatever, you think some thug will be standing over a worker threating to bust his kneecaps??

I doubt it would go that far, but are you so naive to think that they could not make life "interesting" for people that do not vote how they want them to?
cybok0
March 12th, 2009, 08:18 AM
Unions had there part in history, they did a very good job for the common worker, until the went corrupt.

IMO today there is no need for a union, they do more harm then good.
HDRoberts
March 12th, 2009, 10:24 AM
We all knew this would pass if Obama was elected. Yet you people still voted for him.

I highly doubt most of you all agreed COMPLETELY with McCain or Obama. The phrase "lesser of 2 evils" comes to mind (not that either are evil).
vurbano
March 12th, 2009, 08:15 PM
I highly doubt most of you all agreed COMPLETELY with McCain or Obama. The phrase "lesser of 2 evils" comes to mind (not that either are evil).And Obama was the lesser? :free-sick-smileys-1
Hawkeye
March 12th, 2009, 10:37 PM
Its funny how unions fought for the right to have secret ballot now their fighting against them. It might be unions do not represent their members any more.
msmith198025
March 12th, 2009, 11:13 PM
Its funny how unions fought for the right to have secret ballot now their fighting against them. It might be unions do not represent their members any more.

I think that has been true for quite some time