Small bomb explodes outside NYC starbucks

[msmith198025]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/05/25/2009-05-25_small_bomb_goes_off_outside_upper_east_side_sta rbucks.html

[vurbano]

The Mexican and British Consulates, as well as the military recruiting station in Times Square, have been rattled by pre-dawn explosions, all occurring between 3:30 and 4:30 a.m. No has been arrested in connection with those events.


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[Bob Haller]

bush created my terorists by breaking international law........

verb keep repeating this, because sadly its true

[vurbano]

bush created my terorists by breaking international law........

verb keep repeating this, because sadly its trueYour terrorists. What a timely and true slip of the tongue, terrorist defender.

[msmith198025]

both of you are putting blame on the other.

Why?

[Bear Paws]

Weird...I thought StarBucks was a Liberal bastion of Communism. The terrorist's friend. I guess they don't serve camel's milk Lattes.

[fallout2600]

Weird...I thought StarBucks was a Liberal bastion of Communism. The terrorist's friend. I guess they don't serve camel's milk Lattes.

:free-happy-smileys-:free-happy-smileys-

[vurbano]

Weird...I thought StarBucks was a Liberal bastion of Communism. The terrorist's friend. I guess they don't serve camel's milk Lattes.

:free-happy-smileys-

[vurbano]

both of you are putting blame on the other.

Why?
Wrong. He put the blame on BUSH first then I pointed out his Freudian slip and his constant sympathy for terrorists. Bob seems to think that terrorists didnt exist before BUSH. Please try to be accurate.

[msmith198025]

Wrong. He put the blame on BUSH first then I pointed out his Freudian slip and his constant sympathy for terrorists. Bob seems to think that terrorists didnt exist before BUSH. Please try to be accurate.

Yes, he put the blame on Bush.

Did you not put the blame on Obama first though? Or did I misunderstand your half page repetitive rant?

And I agree. If anyone thinks that terrorism just started needs to really read some world history

[HDRoberts]

Yep, all Vurb can do is blame Obama.

I'm waiting for Vurb to slip in the shower, and immediately post that it was Obama's fault due to EPA regulation of soap.

Fact is, this was a teenage prank.


The video, however, leads investigators to believe the latest attack may be a malicious prank, unconnected to the other incidents.

The Starbucks bomb was also "smaller and cruder" than those used at the consulates and recruitment center - and may have just been an elaborate firecracker, a law enforcement source said.

Issam Hage, who lives three floors above the Starbucks, told police he was standing at his window moments before the blast and caught a glimpse of two teenagers in front of the Starbucks.

"I saw two kids, teenagers, and they walked over to the bench," said Hage, 55, who watched the teens dart down the street before turning away from the window. "A few seconds later, it was an explosion like the loudest thunder."

So if teenage pranks are Obama's fault, I guess I better vote Republican after finding that flaming bag of poo at my front door.

[msmith198025]

Um, that does not make it fact.

More than likely, but not fact.

Until they catch them, we simply wont know what their motive was

[HDRoberts]

Um, that does not make it fact.

More than likely, but not fact.

Until they catch them, we simply wont know what their motive was

Granted, but this is a far more likely motive than a vast terrorist plot. If this is the best they can come up with, bombing a closed Starbucks with a big firecracker, I'd say Obama is doing good.

[msmith198025]

Granted, but this is a far more likely motive than a vast terrorist plot. If this is the best they can come up with, bombing a closed Starbucks with a big firecracker, I'd say Obama is doing good.

No doubt

[vurbano]

Yes, he put the blame on Bush.

Did you not put the blame on Obama first though? Or did I misunderstand your half page repetitive rant?

And I agree. If anyone thinks that terrorism just started needs to really read some world history

Of course I pout the blame on Obama. He has weakened our ability to stop terrorists.

[vurbano]

Granted, but this is a far more likely motive than a vast terrorist plot. If this is the best they can come up with, bombing a closed Starbucks with a big firecracker, I'd say Obama is doing good.

Try reading the article. There have been more bombs. Obama's press hasnt been reporting it. btw If you think its a harmless firecracker maybe you'd like to film a demo of yourself getting blown up by one? It won't hurt you right? Its not really terrorism right? That is your goal with this bullsh*t post is it not?

[HDRoberts]

Try reading the article. There have been more bombs. Obama's press hasnt been reporting it. btw If you think its a harmless firecracker maybe you'd like to film a demo of yourself getting blown up by one? It won't hurt you right? Its not really terrorism right? That is your goal with this bullsh*t post is it not?

I did read the article. It referred to 3 other bombs, all during the Bush administration. Heck, one was before Obama was even considered a candidate, and all were before we even wrapped up the nomination.

The British Consulate bomb was in 2005
The Mexican Consulate bomb was in 2007
( http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/07/nyregion/07bicycle.html?_r=3&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin 0
The Military Recruiting bomb was March 6, 2008.

All had media coverage.

If you are referring to other Starbucks, the article said others had been "victimized", not bombed. In fact, a quick google search showed only one other incident involving a bomb:

Starbucks bomb diffused in 2006: http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/01/09/starbucks.bomb/index.html
As it turned out, it was a flashlight left by a homeless man: http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/taste/11433506.html

In NONE of the cases is there any evidence pointing it Islamic Terrorism. In fact, in the case of the Starbucks "incidents" the perps turned out to be "protesters angry at the chain's global reach."

I guess in Vurb's mind, Obama is retroactively responsible for everything since 2001. No wonder he hates Obama.

[msmith198025]

Try reading the article. There have been more bombs. Obama's press hasnt been reporting it.

Which ones are you referring to?

[stevenl]

Of course I pout the blame on Obama. He has weakened our ability to stop terrorists.

Please tell us how?

[HD MM]

Of course I pout the blame on Obama. He has weakened our ability to stop terrorists.

I think someone has been listening to a little too much of Dick Cheney lately. :augentreher:

[vurbano]

Which ones are you referring to?This one. Did you see it on CNN? I looked for it and didnt see it.

[vurbano]

Please tell us how?
By releasing our interrogation techniques to the enemy. He and you libs have handed the terrorists a training manual on what they can expect.:augentreher:

[vurbano]

I did read the article. It referred to 3 other bombs, all during the Bush administration. Heck, one was before Obama was even considered a candidate, and all were before we even wrapped up the nomination.

The British Consulate bomb was in 2005
The Mexican Consulate bomb was in 2007
( http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/07/nyregion/07bicycle.html?_r=3&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin 0
The Military Recruiting bomb was March 6, 2008.

All had media coverage.

If you are referring to other Starbucks, the article said others had been "victimized", not bombed. In fact, a quick google search showed only one other incident involving a bomb:

Starbucks bomb diffused in 2006: http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/01/09/starbucks.bomb/index.html
As it turned out, it was a flashlight left by a homeless man: http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/taste/11433506.html

In NONE of the cases is there any evidence pointing it Islamic Terrorism. In fact, in the case of the Starbucks "incidents" the perps turned out to be "protesters angry at the chain's global reach."

I guess in Vurb's mind, Obama is retroactively responsible for everything since 2001. No wonder he hates Obama.
It all proves that it is a pattern of attacks and at no time did I blame it all on Obama Sparky. Try reading the post. We need to get tougher on terrorism and not weaker under Obama's wrong headed policies. Again you said it was just a firecracker. I want you to go stand by one. You have nothing to fear right?

[msmith198025]

Try reading the article. There have been more bombs. Obama's press hasnt been reporting it.


Which ones are you referring to?


This one. Did you see it on CNN? I looked for it and didnt see it.

No, you said there have been others and the press has not covered it. Or at least that is how it read. Perhaps you just were not clear?

This one was covered. I do not know if it was on CNN, I did not have a chance to be watching the tv all day for every minute

[vurbano]

This one was covered. What network aired it?

[vurbano]

No, you said there have been others and the press has not covered it. Or at least that is how it read. Perhaps you just were not clear?


No I said Obama's press hasn't covered it. The ones in the tank for him. Show me the story on MSNBC, NBC or CNN. You quoted it, did you read it?

[msmith198025]

No I said Obama's press hasn't covered it. The ones in the tank for him. Show me the story on MSNBC, NBC or CNN. You quoted it, did you read it?
Yes, I read it. I found it on a news website, so suprise....it was covered. By the big tv news outlets? I do not know, I never said it was, but like I DID say, I did not watch all day to see

Edit:I see how I MAY have misread what you posted in regards to other bombings and them being covered. If so, my apologies, it was not clear at all

[vurbano]

Yes, I read it. I found it on a news website, so suprise....it was covered. By the big news outlets? I do not know, I never said it was.
Again is that news outlet OBAMA's press??? It being "covered" by "someone" was never the issue. There wouldnt be a thread if someone didnt report it. :augentreher:

[msmith198025]

Again is that news outlet OBAMA's press??? :augentreher:

I am not aware of what press you consider to be Obama's...

Yes, there are some that lean his way in coverage, I will agree, but then again, did Fox cover this? Again, I did not watch every minute of it today

I would be suprised if there was not a single mention of an explosive device being detonated in NYC on ANY news network, if nothing else, a mention

[stevenl]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/05/25/new.york.explosion/index.html

http://www.truveo.com/small-bomb-explodes-outside-nyc-starbucks/id/1110183

There obamas liberal media did report it. Thanks.. Next.

[msmith198025]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/05/25/new.york.explosion/index.html

http://www.truveo.com/small-bomb-explodes-outside-nyc-starbucks/id/1110183

There obamas liberal media did report it. Thanks.. Next.

Not suprising.

And here are some more

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=7669355&page=1

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,521997,00.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30927718/

[HDRoberts]

I love Vurb's logic above

There have been more attacks.

Which ones?

Oh, by more, I mean the same attack.:augentreher:

And yes, Vurb, a firecracker is dangerous. It has the potential to harm TENS of people. I hope Obama is worrying about the threats to THOUSANDS+.

And I would rather stand next to a terrorist (or anyone, for that matter) with a firecracker than a gun. Yet guns are still legal. Interesting.


By releasing our interrogation techniques to the enemy. He and you libs have handed the terrorists a training manual on what they can expect.:augentreher:

Yeah, they didn't know about waterboarding when it was reported by every news outlet THREE YEARS AGO.

Actually, we don't torture anymore. So if they prepare for torture, only to be surprised they are treated well by their interrogators *gasp* maybe they will be more likely to cooperate?

Still. I want to know how torturing an Islamic terrorist stops homegrown terrorism or teenage pranks, as this attack was likely one of these.

[Derwin0]

Personally I can see how the bomb blame can be put on either Obama or Bush. Terrorists bombs go further back than either of them or their predecessors.