The President Is 'Keeping Score'

[Madtown HD Junkie]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123862834153780427.html

"Don't think we're not keeping score, brother." That's what President Barack Obama said to Rep. Peter DeFazio in a closed-door meeting of the House Democratic Caucus last week, according to the Associated Press.

A few weeks ago, Mr. DeFazio voted against the administration's stimulus bill. The comment from Mr. Obama was a presidential rebuke and part of a new, hard-nosed push by the White House to pressure Congress to adopt the president's budget. He has mobilized outside groups and enlisted forces still in place from the Obama campaign.

Senior presidential adviser Valerie Jarrett and her chief of staff, Michael Strautmanis, are in regular contact with MoveOn.Org, Americans United for Change and other liberal interest groups. Deputy Chief of Staff Jim Messina has collaborated with Americans United for Change on strategy and even ad copy. Ms. Jarrett invited leaders of the liberal interest groups to a White House social event with the president and first lady to kick off the lobbying campaign.

Its targets were initially Republicans, as team Obama ran ads depicting the GOP as the "party of no." But now the fire is being trained on Democrats worried about runaway spending..............


I thought the last part was really crazy.

[Carl]

there is a new sheriff in town. One that can LEAD and bring us out of Bush's mess.

[msmith198025]

I guess it is target everyone now

[fallout2600]

Sounds like the dirty work of Rahm Emanuel.

[vurbano]

there is a new sheriff in town. One that can LEAD and bring us out of Bush's mess.
This moron will bury us.

[Derwin0]

But now the fire is being trained on Democrats worried about runaway spending...
Never a good thing to threaten your own party members, especially when you need their votes to get anything passed, and more so when they come from moderate to conservative districts.

[vurbano]

Maybe he will have ACORN threaten to burn down their houses.

[fallout2600]

Never a good thing to threaten your own party members, especially when you need their votes to get anything passed, and more so when they come from moderate to conservative districts.

He wants absolute power, he doesn't care who he threatens. Right now, anyone associated with conservatism is under attack.

[vurbano]

Sounds a bit like Nixon's tactics.

[Carl]

This moron will bury us.

hardly....he was warmly received in Europe and still is at almost 60% here. He is doing a great job!:thumbup:

[Derwin0]

hardly....he was warmly received in Europe and still is at almost 60% here. He is doing a great job!:thumbup:
Yes, because we all know that polls and how the Europeans think of you are the important measures of a President's job. :rolleyes:

Personally I'll wait to see the results of his economic and military plans first, in other words, actual results.

btw, Lincoln's polling was consistently in the crapper during his first term, and the Europeans didn't like him, so by your standards he must have been a failure. :confused:

[fallout2600]

Yes, because we all know that polls and how the Europeans think of you are the important measures of a President's job. :rolleyes:

Personally I'll wait to see the results of his economic and military plans first, in other words, actual results.

btw, Lincoln's polling was consistently in the crapper during his first term, and the Europeans didn't like him, so by your standards he must have been a failure. :confused:


Totally agree, why should we care what the Euros think of us? We left Europe over 2 centuries ago for freedom! What's up with this "we want EVERYONE to love us" hippie non-sense...

[Carl]

I thik it is refeshing change to not have people be against.

[fallout2600]

I don't believe the Founding Fathers believed a Marxist utopia is what's best for the world. They were more worried about America and would disagree with American globalization since WWII.

[cybok0]

Totally agree, why should we care what the Euros think of us? We left Europe over 2 centuries ago for freedom! What's up with this "we want EVERYONE to love us" hippie non-sense...

IMO I don't think we should bow down to them, but I also think we should keep good relations with them. Who knows when we might need their help.

[Derwin0]

I thik it is refeshing change to not have people be against.
And yet there are people against. Hugo wasn't exactly singing platatudes about Obama recently, nor was the EU President either.

The old addage is true, you can't please all of the people all of the time.
But as far as the American Presidency is concerned, the job is to work for the American people, not the European, Asian, African, Martian, etc...

[Carl]

Your right Derwin0...and Obama is doing just that.

[msmith198025]

Your right Derwin0...and Obama is doing just that.
By playing to the international community?
Maybe. I just see this going in the wrong direction

[Carl]

be engaging people through talk instead of the military. By trying to extend a hand of friendship instead of the stick.

[msmith198025]

be engaging people through talk instead of the military. By trying to extend a hand of friendship instead of the stick.
Instead of the millitary? Last I heard, it is status quo more or less for the millitary actions we are doing

[fallout2600]

be engaging people through talk instead of the military. By trying to extend a hand of friendship instead of the stick.

While that hippie nonsense sounds great, it doesn't work, ask Jimmy Carter or Reagan what happened when they trusted Iran or Iran's proxy armies. The result was not in America interest. And part of the president's job is to secure America's interest.

[stevenl]

Yes, because we all know that polls and how the Europeans think of you are the important measures of a President's job. :rolleyes:

Personally I'll wait to see the results of his economic and military plans first, in other words, actual results.

btw, Lincoln's polling was consistently in the crapper during his first term, and the Europeans didn't like him, so by your standards he must have been a failure. :confused:

So far the dow has had its biggest gains since like the 1930s.. Its had 5 straight weeks of gains, the longest run in a many years.

and yes Lincoln the war criminal/tyrant was a failure.

[Bear Paws]

So far the dow has had its biggest gains since like the 1930s.. Its had 5 straight weeks of gains, the longest run in a many years.

and yes Lincoln the war criminal/tyrant was a failure. It wouldn't have dropped so much to have to come back from in the first place had Obama and Turbo Tim stayed out of its business.
The market is going up in spite of Obama.. He has done nothing that should move the markets. Matter of fact its counter to all reasons a market does go up.. There are just a very few good fundamentals, non enough of any that are warranting this gain. This is nothing but a bear market rally. Fools gold. Suckers market.

[Bear Paws]

This moron will bury us. He better dig two holes.

[msmith198025]

So far the dow has had its biggest gains since like the 1930s.. Its had 5 straight weeks of gains, the longest run in a many years.

and yes Lincoln the war criminal/tyrant was a failure.

Really? After it dropped that much? Lol, what do you expect if it gained at all? Notice I am not saying who is at fault for the fall, but to say what you said is silly to be a measurment of who is doing well or not

[Bear Paws]

Your right Derwin0...and Obama is doing just that. Whats that Carl? ..The Greatest Hoax on Earth

[Carl]

Nope, one of the great President who cares for the people instead of the corporations.
Unions in this country have struggled for years to help the common man and now they finally have a voice to reinvigorate them.

[msmith198025]

Nope, one of the great President who cares for the people instead of the corporations.
Unions in this country have struggled for years to help the common man and now they finally have a voice to reinvigorate them.

Unions are one of the MAIN reasons that we are in the mess we are in.

[Carl]

Whats that Carl? ..The Greatest Hoax on Earth

Just the truth Bearpaws :thumbup:

[Bear Paws]

[QUOTE]Originally Posted by Bear Paws View Post
Whats that Carl? ..The Greatest Hoax on Earth


Just the truth Bearpaws :thumbup: Glad you finally agree.

[Carl]

[quote=Carl;3382]
Glad you finally agree.

Agree? I agree Obama speaks the truth and unions need to come alive in this country so oppressive corporations, hell bent on profit over people, can not drive this country further into oblivion.

We can agree on that:)

[Derwin0]

unions need to come alive in this country so oppressive corporations, hell bent on profit over people, can not drive this country further into oblivion.
hmm... let's name a company that has a very alive union, and doesn't have profit...

that would be GM. Yep, not having profits sure seems to be working for them. :rolleyes:

Businesses are in business to make money (ie. profits), otherwise they wouldn't be in business.
I assume you want to be paid for your work, why shouldn't businesses?

[fallout2600]

[quote=Bear Paws;3416]

Agree? I agree Obama speaks the truth and unions need to come alive in this country so oppressive corporations, hell bent on profit over people, can not drive this country further into oblivion.

We can agree on that:)

Carl, you'll make a great socialist! :augentreher:

[msmith198025]

hmm... let's name a company that has a very alive union, and doesn't have profit...

that would be GM. Yep, not having profits sure seems to be working for them. :rolleyes:

Businesses are in business to make money (ie. profits), otherwise they wouldn't be in business.
I assume you want to be paid for your work, why shouldn't businesses?

Well that just makes too much sense.

[msmith198025]

[quote=Bear Paws;3416]

Agree? I agree Obama speaks the truth and unions need to come alive in this country so oppressive corporations, hell bent on profit over people, can not drive this country further into oblivion.

We can agree on that:)

Carl, you should really do some research on what unions have done to our companies in the past decade or so. Then tell me that they do more good than harm

[cybok0]

Carl, you should really do some research on what unions have done to our companies in the past decade or so. Then tell me that they do more good than harm

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

[dogbert]

Favors have always been part of politics. Compromise is how things get done in Washington.

[msmith198025]

Favors have always been part of politics. Compromise is how things get done in Washington.

Or it is how things DONT get done in many cases.

[msmith198025]

By the way, welcome to the forum dogbert:thumbup:

[Madtown HD Junkie]

Favors have always been part of politics. Compromise is how things get done in Washington.

:welcome::welcome::clapclap::clapclap::cheerleader-108::cheerleader-108:

[Carl]

Favors have always been part of politics. Compromise is how things get done in Washington.

exactly what Obama is doing.:)