Polish President/wife killed in plane crash

[msmith198025]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1264964/BREAKING-NEWS-Plane-carrying-Polish-president-crashes-Russia.html


Polish president Lech Kaczynski and his wife Maria have been killed after their plane crashed on approach to Smolensk airport in western Russia.

There were conflicting reports today of the number of people on board the flight. Russian news agencies reported at least 88 people died in the crash near Smolensk airport in western Russia, citing the Russian Emergencies Ministry. They reported 132 people were aboard the Tupolev Tu-154.

But Polish officials said 88 people were on board when the plane crashed. Sky News reported 96 dead.

[Madtown HD Junkie]

What a horrible tragedy. Some many of their countries leaders where on the plane too. A tremendous loss.

[DodgerKing]

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has been put in charge of a commission investigating the crash, the Kremlin said.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1264964/BREAKING-NEWS-Plane-carrying-Polish-president-crashes-Russia.html#ixzz0khcijy37

Hummmm....Very interesting.

I am no conspiracy theorists, but when I first heard of this the first thing that came to my mind was, "I wonder if Russia was behind this?" Now we know they will be behind the investigation. Even though the crash occurred in Russia, shouldn't the Polish government lead the investigation? If this was a US plane carrying US leaders, we would NOT let Russia be the lead investigator. At minimum it would be joint effort.

[DodgerKing]

Putting Putin is charge is a mistake. I believe it was solely an accident, but putting Russia in charge of an investigation of the death of a leader of country in which they had issues with will only lead to conspiracy theories and other problems down the road. The Polish people will not accept the findings of the Russian government.

[HD MM]

Tragic event. The ironic part is the site where the accident happened was the same site the Pols were persecuted during the 1940's by the Russians.

[msmith198025]

I can not imagine the chaos in Poland right now. There were alot of the upper level people on this plane. Very tragic

[fallout2600]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1264964/BREAKING-NEWS-Plane-carrying-Polish-president-crashes-Russia.html#ixzz0khcijy37

Hummmm....Very interesting.

I am no conspiracy theorists, but when I first heard of this the first thing that came to my mind was, "I wonder if Russia was behind this?" Now we know they will be behind the investigation. Even though the crash occurred in Russia, shouldn't the Polish government lead the investigation? If this was a US plane carrying US leaders, we would NOT let Russia be the lead investigator. At minimum it would be joint effort.


I wouldn't be so quick to blame Russia. If I had to go all conspiracy, then I'd blame the EU. Poland has refused to accept the Euro and notice the head of their central bank was on the plane. Also, they had just announced they were going to devalue their currency instead of converting to Euro.

[dantheman77]

how many pollocks does it take to fly a plane??

[vurbano]

how many pollocks does it take to fly a plane??

That's just wrong.

[stevenl]

how many pollocks does it take to fly a plane??

Not sure, but I know how many it takes to crash one...

[stevenl]

That's just wrong.

No ^ that was wrong ;)

[dantheman77]

That's just wrong.

LOL!!! you would be having a party if the leader of your own country was on the plane. you telling me, or anyone what is wrong??? that is a hoot!!

[msmith198025]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265482/Leck-Kaczynski-Russia-engineered-plane-crash-claims-Polish-MP.html


The Russian government prevented the Polish president's plane from landing four times to divert him from a ceremony to mark the 70th anniversary of the Katyn massacre, according to an MP.

Artur Gorski said the Russians 'came up with some dubious reasons' that the aircraft couldn't land because they feared President Leck Kaczynski's presence would overshadow a similar event hosted by the Russian prime minister a few days before.

And their alleged plan ended in disaster when the Polish pilots made one final and disastrous attempt to land, killing Mr Kaczynski, his wife, and 94 others on board the plane.

Here you go dodger

[fallout2600]

Russian side of story:


Col. (Ret.) Anatoly Muravyov, the air traffic controller who was guiding the plane during the landing, told the Komsomolskaya Pravda Russian daily that the crew "did not listen" to recommendations to divert to another airport.
"The head of the traffic control group warned of poor weather conditions, but the crew went ahead with the landing without permission. And [they] also made their landing approach without permission," Muravyov said.
"The [control tower] head said three times to execute a flyby procedure. When the crew did not listen, the control tower could only continue to guide the plane and watch it. It was the only landing approach, the plane crashed at once," he added.
Muravyov said the controllers were unable to give a direct command to divert because "we have no rights to give orders to civilian pilots."
"Conversations with the crew were in Russian and sometimes in bad English. It hampered understanding," he said, adding that the fatal crash was caused by a combination of factors.
The traffic controller said the plane's crew did not follow the standard procedure of informing the control tower of all the performed maneuvers and altitude, possibly because of a language barrier.
"Weather conditions, probably a crew mistake, loss of altitude and the pilot's ambition to land the plane by all means. I think this ambition was due to the fact that there were such high-ranking people onboard... Because of... this false idea that diverting to another airport is a shame the pilot took so many people to Heaven with him," Muravyov said.
The Russian traffic controllers successfully guided two planes prior to the ill-fated Tu-154 requested landing. The first, a Yak-40, landed successfully in the Severny airfield, the second, an Il-76 was diverted to Vnukovo Airport in Moscow.


SOURCE: http://en.rian.ru/russia/20100413/158559617.html