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cybok0
May 1st, 2009, 08:27 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/30508377#30508377
Bob Haller
May 1st, 2009, 09:02 AM
The world court needs a trial of all parties involved.

Bush clearly broke international law, he deserves prison time

or everyone tortured should be released.
fallout2600
May 1st, 2009, 09:37 AM
I actually agree with left on this, it was torture and torture is indefensible. All lawyers that scripted "the backdoor" to allow this should be waterboarded 200 times in one month until they admit it was torture.
Bob Haller
May 1st, 2009, 04:24 PM
all individuals who ordered or passed on orders should proscueted to the full extent of the law.

jail time will discourage future torture...........

all tortured must be released, including the masterminds.
fallout2600
May 1st, 2009, 04:40 PM
Now, Bob, I agree we need to set an example so this doesn't happen again, but releasing Al Qaeda in the USA is a little crazy! Don't ya' think?
msmith198025
May 1st, 2009, 05:02 PM
all tortured must be released, including the masterminds.
Bob that is INSANE. You really think we should release the masterminds into public society???:05:
Bob Haller
May 2nd, 2009, 08:22 AM
Bob that is INSANE. You really think we should release the masterminds into public society???:05:


send them back to their home countries and let them handle it..........

If this is allowed to stand it could happen to any american in a foreign country:(

While visting any country you or a member of your family get picked up, detaineed with no legal rights at all, endless tortured and held forever, heck your family isnt even told your being held?

bush violated so many laws, to keep his sorry ass out of jail all detainees should be released.

their treatment just led to more terrorist recruits:(
cybok0
May 2nd, 2009, 08:42 AM
That's why I wont leave the country. I refuse to get a passport, I've seen foreign countries before, don't need to see them again.
Bob Haller
May 2nd, 2009, 12:48 PM
Geez i have enjoyed trips in canada, mexico, and stops on cruises.

Might as well see the world if you can.
cybok0
May 3rd, 2009, 09:37 AM
I've been to Canada, England twice, Germany, The Philippines and Guam. That's enough for me.
vurbano
May 3rd, 2009, 10:16 AM
send them back to their home countries and let them handle it..........They wont take them because they know they are criminals and terrorists.:(
vurbano
May 3rd, 2009, 10:17 AM
The world court needs a trial of all parties involved.

Bush clearly broke international law, he deserves prison time

or everyone tortured should be released.It was not torture under US law. Obama will let us all die rather then drop some water on a terrorist.
Madtown HD Junkie
May 3rd, 2009, 11:34 AM
I think they should have shot them on the battlefield and been done with this BS. As to the waterboarding being torture, we do it to our own troops in training. Spare me the torture crap. I would not have a problem with them beat the tar out the muslim nutjobs that planned 9/11.
cybok0
May 3rd, 2009, 02:00 PM
I think they should have shot them on the battlefield and been done with this BS. As to the waterboarding being torture, we do it to our own troops in training. Spare me the torture crap. I would not have a problem with them beat the tar out the muslim nutjobs that planned 9/11.

I don't have a problem with it either, the fools were just stupid to get caught.
Bob Haller
May 3rd, 2009, 04:13 PM
some were caught taking public transit, and after a year of interogation found not guilty of anything more than being in the wrong place at the wrong time, oh they fit the description so those turning them in made money.

not only were they wrongly improsined and tortured, some were guilty of nothing and never released.

hey indefinite detention and torture might help solve crimes here in our country.........

should the police start using it?

along with universal ID and DNA wouldnt we be safer?

where do you set the line?

If a sleep[er cell of US citizens say a bunch of timothy mc veighs appeared to have plans should torture be used here?
vurbano
May 3rd, 2009, 05:12 PM
If a sleep[er cell of US citizens say a bunch of timothy mc veighs appeared to have plans should torture be used here?
waterboarding, Absolutely. Thumbscrews, the rack and fingernail pulling no.
Bob Haller
May 3rd, 2009, 05:30 PM
waterboarding, Absolutely. Thumbscrews, the rack and fingernail pulling no.

so you believe waterboarding should be used for criminal investigations in america? on us citizens?

how about using it for serial killers rapists etc?

if soime die of heart attacks being water boarded is that OK with you?
vurbano
May 3rd, 2009, 05:37 PM
so you believe waterboarding should be used for criminal investigations in america? on us citizens?

how about using it for serial killers rapists etc?

if soime die of heart attacks being water boarded is that OK with you?
for terrorist activity absolutely.
Madtown HD Junkie
May 3rd, 2009, 06:02 PM
I don't have a problem with it either, the fools were just stupid to get caught.

Tom...a great example of working across the aisle.
cybok0
May 3rd, 2009, 09:15 PM
Tom...a great example of working across the aisle.

I don't think torture should be "legal", but that is what the C.I.A. is for. They have been torturing for the beginning, they just were never stupid enough to get caught.

If they catch a terrorist suspected of planning an attack, they should use any means necessary. There are just some things the public doesn't need to know.