Men on no fly list stopped at Heathrow

[msmith198025]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/01/24/terror-alert-two-men-on-no-fly-list-stopped-at-heathrow-115875-21990980/


Two men were stopped boarding US-bound planes at Heathrow days before Britain's terror threat was raised to "severe".

News of the incidents came hours after Home Secretary Alan Johnson lifted the threat level amid fears that al-Qaeda is planning an attack.

The new level, which means an attack is reckoned "highly likely", is second only to "critical".

Security sources say an Egyptian was stopped last Saturday as he tried to board an American Airlines flight to Miami. A man from Saudi Arabia was banned from boarding a United Airlines flight to Chicago the next day and sent back to Saudi.

The incidents and the raised threat level follow the failed Christmas Day bombing on a plane over Detroit.

Anti-terror officials said the past week had seen an "unusually high" number of people on their no-fly list trying to board US-bound planes.

[vurbano]

Someone tell the head at HLS that this is what is meant by the system working. Stopping them before they get on the plane.

[vurbano]

I have always wondered one thing. If someone is dangerous enough not to allow to fly then why are they Ok to walk among us?

[stevenl]

I have always wondered one thing. If someone is dangerous enough not to allow to fly then why are they Ok to walk among us?

Because we are civilized people? Well at least most of us are.

[HDRoberts]

Someone tell the head at HLS that this is what is meant by the system working. Stopping them before they get on the plane.

So is that you conceding that Obama's HLS worked in this case? If you blame Obama for the failures, do you also credit him for the successes? :)

[vurbano]

Because we are civilized people? Well at least most of us are.

Get yourself a net and try to catch the point above your head. If we are afraid they will blow up a plane then we should be just as afraid that tey will blow up a crowd of people anywhere.

[vurbano]

So is that you conceding that Obama's HLS worked in this case? If you blame Obama for the failures, do you also credit him for the successes? :) Since when is Heathrow in the United States? Obama had little to do with it. :augentreher:

[HDRoberts]

Since when is Heathrow in the United States? Obama had little to do with it. :augentreher:

Oh, so since Amsterdam Schiphol is not the United States, you agree he has little to do with the Christmas day incident?

[Derwin0]

Responsibility goes to who does the screening.

The no-fly list is maintained by DHS.

Screening at foreign airports is mostly done by that country, with exceptions for the airports where the U.S. does pre-clearance customs & immigration (such most Canadian airports and some in Europe such as London Heathrow and Dublin & Shannon in Ireland).

Therefore, DHS let the wannabe underwear bomber through at London, and also prevented the no-fly men from getting on due to the DHS maintained no-fly list.

[HDRoberts]

Responsibility goes to who does the screening.

The no-fly list is maintained by DHS.

Screening at foreign airports is mostly done by that country, with exceptions for the airports where the U.S. does pre-clearance customs & immigration (such most Canadian airports and some in Europe such as London Heathrow and Amsterdam Schiphol).

So in both cases of the wannabe underwear bomber and the men being stopped, both were handled by DHS.

I agree. I'm more getting at the inconsistency of some here, namely, that Obama gets direct blame for failures, yet has nothing to do with the successes. It's one or the other folks.

[stevenl]

Get yourself a net and try to catch the point above your head. If we are afraid they will blow up a plane then we should be just as afraid that tey will blow up a crowd of people anywhere.

Because it takes little information to be put on a no fly list.. It takes a lot more information to sentence someone to death?

[Derwin0]

Because it takes little information to be put on a no fly list.. It takes a lot more information to sentence someone to death?Tell me about it.
It's even easier to get put on the watch lists.

Whenever I fly out of BWI, my boarding pass prints out with the dreaded "SSSS" that subjects me and my checked bags to extra searches. My guess is that it's due to some 1-way plane tickets that I've purchased to Georgia and Canada in the past (the Georgia trip was for a funeral, and it was cheaper for me to get 2 1-way tickets on seperate airlines at the time, and the Canadian ones because me wife would drive up previously with the kids, and I would fly up later and drive back with them).

End result, whenever I fly out of BWI I get the extra searches. At first I thought it was random, but after 5 straight times I don't think so.

Did learn to show the TSA guy my old military ID though, makes the search much quicker.

[Bob Haller]

words out the 3 ounces of liquid rule is a sham.

several terrorists all board same plane and combine chemicals. boom.

might it be necessary that passengers have zero access to all their personal possesions whie flying?

luggage would all get checked or put in secure carry on area in plane.....

TSA should elminate extra checked bag fees, it just creates more stuff to search which means a greater risk of something slipping past TSA