View Full Version : Market Crash Looming, World Ecomony gets a double-dip recession?
fallout2600
October 25th, 2009, 08:22 PM
Commercial Real Estate crash has been gaining speed...hopefully all these analysts are wrong:
http://www.safehaven.com/article-14811.htm
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/cre-update-cmbs-deterioration-accelerates-las-550-south-hope-tower-appraised-half-2007-value
http://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=70885&Itemid=79
vurbano
October 25th, 2009, 08:39 PM
There's got to be a way to blame Bush right?
Bear Paws
October 25th, 2009, 10:31 PM
Commercial Real Estate crash has been gaining speed...hopefully all these analysts are wrong:
http://www.safehaven.com/article-14811.htm
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/cre-update-cmbs-deterioration-accelerates-las-550-south-hope-tower-appraised-half-2007-value
http://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=70885&Itemid=79Unfortunitly they aren't wrong... This is the other shoe we talked about about... With already 106 federally insured banks closed and the FDIC in the deep red, its more like a boot..
The Obama State media is covering up with silence and not reporting the huge number of small bank failures daily that are carrying commercial paper. Fox Business is about the only one you can hear say much about it. Otherwise your neighbors have no idea its crashing all around their ears if they warch the regular news.. We are pretty healthy here in CT and I see strip mall after strip mall and big malls with either zero or 10% occupancy. Small mall anchors like Circuit City are long gone but so are the smaller stores like the furniture giants and carpet companies. These mall real estate companies can't pay the bills. That's how commercial real estate works. Its always financed, refinanced and borrowed against.
Bob Haller
October 25th, 2009, 10:57 PM
yeah were abut to see another crash and burn. the seeds were planted long ago, and now groing well:(
malls and strip centers all hurting here.
bailey banks and biddle liquidating. expect failure of sears, where kenmore and craftsman names will live on at home depot.
sears stupidly sold off everything but retail.
look at the brite side as our country goes bankrupt, may give chance to reform government..
HDRoberts
October 26th, 2009, 07:25 AM
Matt 24:21: For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be.
Can't wait, personally.
msmith198025
October 26th, 2009, 07:30 AM
Cant wait?
HDRoberts
October 26th, 2009, 07:31 AM
Cant wait?
Because of what comes after, if you keep reading Matt. 24 and 25.
fallout2600
October 26th, 2009, 07:49 AM
S&P 500 headed for a 40% drop......here it comes:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601110&sid=ac1KaPxa0Bso
Bear Paws
October 26th, 2009, 12:28 PM
[QUOTE]yeah were abut to see another crash and burn. the seeds were planted long ago, and now groing well:(
Armageddon, just what you been wishing for.. Right Bob?
malls and strip centers all hurting here.
bailey banks and biddle liquidating. expect failure of sears, where kenmore and craftsman names will live on at home depot.
sears stupidly sold off everything but retail.
Care to explain that..Sears sold off what and to whom? Better yet ...link me.. I don't speak and read "Bob" very well...
look at the brite side as our country goes bankrupt, may give chance to reform government..
We are in a reform government now Bob.. Whats the matter? Don't like what you wished for?
If this present administration and congress uses this situation to take over control of everything with marshal law or some form of and commun-ism and then also pushes through Socialized Medicine with this manufactured flu "national emergency" your gonna get your change.
Speaking of National Emergency and this dishonest government.....There is something very strange going on about this Flu thing.. It don't feel right. Its getting political and that is disturbing..I was at the Dr last Monday for check up and I saw a sign hanging on the wall that said "If you have a fever...headache..sore throat then you have H1N1." Now, I'm not buddies with this guy as I see him rarely but I asked the Doc about it and he seemed evasive but said its a directive from the CDC.. As if they have decided there will be an epidemic and only the government can save you.. "I am the Obama government and I am here to save you..."
Its going to be painful.... To get a glimpse of your future just look back to the USSR...or tomorrow's Venezuela. Because you elected people to run this country that have that model in their head as the only solution for every problem....Regulate it till it fails and then take it over.... Can you handle it?
If this goes typically like things have in the recent 40 years, the American people will sit passively on their ass and expect others to make the changes. Those weasels in Washington aren't going easy... We may have to go down there with pitch forks and "encourage" them. Are You ready to go and reform our government? Because its not going to happen on its own from you whining about it... and..ergo.. it sure as hell won't come from Washington.
fallout2600
October 26th, 2009, 01:27 PM
Bear, I agree on the H1N1 thing. Obama declares a state of emergency due to H1N1 this past weekend. Why? Only a 1,000 people have died from it vs the 30,000 that die from the regular flu every year......definitely something political in the works...
Skyhi
October 26th, 2009, 01:34 PM
Speaking of National Emergency and this dishonest government.....There is something very strange going on about this Flu thing.. It don't feel right. Its getting political and that is disturbing..I was at the Dr last Monday for check up and I saw a sign hanging on the wall that said "If you have a fever...headache..sore throat then you have H1N1." Now, I'm not buddies with this guy as I see him rarely but I asked the Doc about it and he seemed evasive but said its a directive from the CDC.. As if they have decided there will be an epidemic and only the government can save you.. "I am the Obama government and I am here to save you..."
Hmm. I don't know about it being a directive from the CDC....I had a different experience last week with a doctor. My son had a high fever, headache, and sore throat. I called his Dr.'s answering service in the evening and asked that she call in a prescription for Tamiflu. She refused to do so because the symptoms didn't provide enough evidence that it was any kind of influenza....he went in to see her the next day and she was correct.
Bob Haller
October 26th, 2009, 03:46 PM
the old sears owned NTB tire and battery, allstate insurance, craftsman, coldwell banker real estate, and sold off all of this to concentrate on retail.
when retail goes bust so does sears.
kenmore brand is being sold, and sears is just a licensee of the craftsman brand. there are reports they are trying to raise bucks by selling lands end, all they still own are the stores.
incidently the kmart appliance experiment with sears selling appliances in kmart stores hasnt made money. neith have the sears grand.
this will likely be the last christmas selling season for sears. there are reports they lack the cash to get thru the holidays
Bear Paws
October 26th, 2009, 03:50 PM
Hmm. I don't know about it being a directive from the CDC....I had a different experience last week with a doctor. My son had a high fever, headache, and sore throat. I called his Dr.'s answering service in the evening and asked that she call in a prescription for Tamiflu. She refused to do so because the symptoms didn't provide enough evidence that it was any kind of influenza....he went in to see her the next day and she was correct.A few things jump out.
One, what was it? Two, She is the doctor you want in your corner.. She is working for you..
Third, and most importantly ...hopefully she is ignoring the memo in accordance with # two....
The forth but unlikely .. she didn't get the memo.
Bob Haller
October 26th, 2009, 04:07 PM
better to do the paperwork now for a possible national emergency than later when things have gone to $^%&^*&
good planning by obama considering the risks
Bear Paws
October 26th, 2009, 04:13 PM
Bear, I agree on the H1N1 thing. Obama declares a state of emergency due to H1N1 this past weekend. Why? Only a 1,000 people have died from it vs the 30,000 that die from the regular flu every year......definitely something political in the works...
Yeah, I'm not much on convenient coincidence. It was done on a Friday night and released Saturday? Something really doesn't feel right. Its panic mongering.
Also a little known fact...the Obama administration aka Government had taken over the distribution of the vaccine supposedly to be able to track efficacy. Come to find out that's why there is a shortage and delay along with the FDA not approving most of it yet. In the past the distribution was always done by the private sector, IE. the manufacture.. They tried to blame the problem on manufacturing problems of the 5 producing companies but come to find out in a congressional hearing mid last week only one company ran into a problem that caused only a one week delay in their production.. All the others where either on time or ahead of schedule.. The Vaccine czar lied through her teeth at the hearing. That was not reported by main stream but I watched the hearing on:05: Fox..
Now we have a emergency because/without enough vaccine?? What is going on? Sounds like its a inherited previous administration problem brewing. Or the fault of someone else. Either way... It a harbinger of things to come when the Government takes over health care. Even the DMV would do a better job. Get out the Socialist mop...
fallout2600
October 26th, 2009, 04:27 PM
HA! So they are going CYA because they are short vaccines...
fallout2600
October 28th, 2009, 01:02 PM
S&P issues a fresh warning on US mortgage insurers
http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2009/10/28/80036/sp-issues-a-fresh-warning-on-us-mortgage-insurers/
Skyhi
October 28th, 2009, 01:05 PM
A few things jump out.
One, what was it? Two, She is the doctor you want in your corner.. She is working for you..
Third, and most importantly ...hopefully she is ignoring the memo in accordance with # two....
The forth but unlikely .. she didn't get the memo.
It was strep throat. I think she's ignoring the memo. We asked her about the swine flu shot and she said she will not be giving it to her patients because she doesn't want them used as guinea pigs.
Skyhi
October 28th, 2009, 01:07 PM
S&P issues a fresh warning on US mortgage insurers
http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2009/10/28/80036/sp-issues-a-fresh-warning-on-us-mortgage-insurers/
Ouch.
fallout2600
October 29th, 2009, 09:51 AM
CIT Bonds Show Bankruptcy Inevitable as Swap Expires
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=amKwmYefQHZc
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