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Bob Haller
October 19th, 2009, 09:37 PM
Lowest percentage in 26 years. source ABC news tonight

assuming the remaining republicans lose big in the next election will the party die?

In any case republican leaders must look at themselves closely, their current approach isnt working.

msmith198025
October 20th, 2009, 06:16 AM
Link?

msmith198025
October 20th, 2009, 06:29 AM
SInce bob wont ever provide a link, I decided to show one myself.

http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/party-id.php#


Looks like that number is accurate (depending on which source you use).

Hoever if you look, both parties are losing people with more and more becoming independants, not changing parties. In fact, at the time when the repubs showed a larger drop, independants showed a higher increase.

Interesting to look at.

fallout2600
October 20th, 2009, 07:12 AM
Good to see more and more folks going independent, the 2 party system has failed us, it is time to vote based on record, not party affiliation.

Bob Haller
October 20th, 2009, 07:15 AM
now if voters were unhappy with democrats obama wouldnt the dis satisfied flock to the republicans?

in any case the partys support is shrinking, thats never good when your already largely out of power.

definition of republicans.......... the party for the wealthy, who wants no change. plus they with the president ruled over the largest economic dump since the great depression.

republicans were firmly against a life preserver for sub prime loan folks. if they had been helped theres a good chance unemployment wouldnt be at 10% today and rising, and home prices collapsed....... plus the unnecessary iraq war costs and effect on our economy..

thanks republicans.......... you are reaping what you sowed.

mitch how do you want you jim jones koolaid? grape or cherry flavored:)

msmith198025
October 20th, 2009, 07:31 AM
now if voters were unhappy with democrats obama wouldnt the dis satisfied flock to the republicans?
No, for the same reason unhappy repubs are not going dem. They are going independant. Both are dropping Bob, it is clear on the chart.


in any case the partys support is shrinking, thats never good when your already largely out of power.

It is good that both are dropping in support in polls, now if it can just show up in elections and we can get these crooks out of power


definition of republicans.......... the party for the wealthy, who wants no change. plus they with the president ruled over the largest economic dump since the great depression.
Lol, dems now represent the most wealthy districs
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-10-13-House-wealth-gap-Democrats-richest-districts_N.htm

Haha, it is funny, the ones that were repubs that changed to dems are the ones that dems have demonized for years. The rich.


republicans were firmly against a life preserver for sub prime loan folks. if they had been helped theres a good chance unemployment wouldnt be at 10% today and rising, and home prices collapsed....... plus the unnecessary iraq war costs and effect on our economy...
thanks republicans.......... you are reaping what you sowed.

It the other guys fault!!!!!!! We had nothing to do with it...:pleur:

msmith198025
October 20th, 2009, 07:34 AM
Go to see more and more folks going independent, the 2 party system has failed us, it is time to vote based on record, not party affiliation.

I agree. More and more are seeing this.

DodgerKing
October 20th, 2009, 08:05 AM
I have never been registered under any party, although I vote Rep more than anything else.

msmith198025
October 20th, 2009, 08:09 AM
I have never been registered under any party, although I vote Rep more than anything else.

That is me as well. I do tend to vote repub, but have also voted dem.

Skyhi
October 20th, 2009, 08:13 AM
Don't you guys vote in partisan primaries? I have to declare an affiliation for the primaries. Doesn't that automatically register you with a party? Excuse my ignorance...

msmith198025
October 20th, 2009, 08:38 AM
Don't you guys vote in partisan primaries? I have to declare an affiliation for the primaries. Doesn't that automatically register you with a party? Excuse my ignorance...

It varies from region to region from what I can tell.

DodgerKing
October 20th, 2009, 08:40 AM
Don't you guys vote in partisan primaries? I have to declare an affiliation for the primaries. Doesn't that automatically register you with a party? Excuse my ignorance...
In CA an independent can chose which party's primary in which to vote

Bob Haller
October 20th, 2009, 09:01 AM
some have open primaries, vote for whoever you want.

otherwise 3rd party members frequently dont get to vote at all

Derwin0
October 20th, 2009, 10:10 AM
Don't you guys vote in partisan primaries? I have to declare an affiliation for the primaries. Doesn't that automatically register you with a party? Excuse my ignorance...
Depends on the State. Lots of States have open primaries that allow anyone to vote in them. I never declared a party until moving to PA, which has closed primaries.

Even then I've switched affiliation a couple times in order to vote in a particular party. Right now I'm a registered Democrat. Probably stay that way next year in order to vote against Arlen in the primary, unless there is a Republican race I'm interested in. I think it'll come down to who's running to replace Eddie in the Governor's chair.

Basically most people are Independents and while they vote mostly for one party or another, they don't want to be sheeple to a particular party and vote the person.
Closed primaries are the biggest driver of party registrations.

vurbano
October 20th, 2009, 03:46 PM
Don't you guys vote in partisan primaries? I have to declare an affiliation for the primaries. Doesn't that automatically register you with a party? Excuse my ignorance...

It doesnt change the way you can vote in the real election. And there were many republicans that registered democrat to vote in the democratic primary last year.

HD MM
October 21st, 2009, 07:02 AM
Lowest percentage in 26 years. source ABC news tonight

assuming the remaining republicans lose big in the next election will the party die?

In any case republican leaders must look at themselves closely, their current approach isnt working.

And are you surprised?

If anything, this thread proves that point to be accurate. It's so embarrassing to be considered an R* nowadays that even our resident nighties on this site aren't admitting their allegiance. LMAO!

Derwin0
October 21st, 2009, 07:21 AM
And are you surprised?

If anything, this thread proves that point to be accurate. It's so embarrassing to be considered an R* nowadays that even our resident nighties on this site aren't admitting their allegiance. LMAO!Which allegiance is that?
To vote blindly for a party, or to wisely choose between candidates?

I've admitted several times that I voted for Rendell (D) in the last PA Governor's race, mostly due to Fast Eddie not screwing up anything in his first term and his support for the military, as well as Lynn Swann being a pathetic candidate.

Living in Georgia, there was never a reason to join a party, as during the primaries you could choose either ballot. Which was useful, as I voted for Zell Miller a few times for Governor and then as Senator.

The majority of the time I do vote Republican, but have in the past voted for a Democrat if they were the better candidate, and will again in the future, probably when Bob Casey comes up for re-election.

I personally prefer to think for myself and not be a party lemming.

msmith198025
October 21st, 2009, 08:59 AM
And are you surprised?

If anything, this thread proves that point to be accurate. It's so embarrassing to be considered an R* nowadays that even our resident nighties on this site aren't admitting their allegiance. LMAO!

I think you misunderstand some of us. I cant speak for everyone but although I am conservative leaning, I have NEVER claimed to be a repub.

I have claimed to have voted dem AND repub in elections however.

HD MM
October 21st, 2009, 09:13 AM
Precisely my point MSmith and Derwin.

Now, while I more than respect both of your choices to choose candidates based on stances rather than party affiliation, that is not what the Original Topic is about. The point is, there is a dwindling number of die-hard "Republican Only" supporters left. The GOP used to be an old boys club where they only voted 1 way, the GOP way. I certainly appreciate those of you who think outside the proverbial "box" and it's certainly a sign of maturity and progress on the Right's part. The fact that the fringes are decaying is a good thing. If we could all continue to meet in the middle, it would be even better. :thumbup:

fallout2600
October 21st, 2009, 10:19 AM
The fact that the fringes are decaying is a good thing. If we could all continue to meet in the middle, it would be even better. :thumbup:

I couldn't agree more. The more we all come to the middle, the more tolerant we will become as a nation and the more civil liberties we will all gain.

msmith198025
October 21st, 2009, 10:46 AM
Ok, I am confused though. Who are our resident righties that are not admitting to it now?

Bob Haller
October 21st, 2009, 11:42 AM
what percentage of americans are wealthy?

maybe most wealthy americans are republicans? the party of the rich?

HD MM
October 21st, 2009, 11:53 AM
what percentage of americans are wealthy?

maybe most wealthy americans are republicans? the party of the rich?

No, that's a stereotype. Ever hear of Warren Buffett? He's one of the richest men in America and he's a Democrat.

Fact of the matter is there are sectors of both parties that have extreme rich & poor as supporters.