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msmith198025
August 26th, 2009, 04:43 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090826/us_nm/us_kennedy

Derwin0
August 26th, 2009, 06:18 AM
RIP, prayers go out to his family.

vurbano
August 26th, 2009, 06:53 AM
Hip Hip Hurray!!!!!!!!!

Mary Jo's killer is finally in the ground! AS well as the killer of more innocent souls than Hitler.

Bob Haller
August 26th, 2009, 07:05 AM
Hip Hip Hurray!!!!!!!!!

Mary Jo's killer is finally in the ground! AS well as the killer of more innocent souls than Hitler.

no bush is likely ahead of kennedy.

are you trying to say jews were guilty of something?

how has kennedy killed more than hitler

HDRoberts
August 26th, 2009, 07:46 AM
no bush is likely ahead of kennedy.

are you trying to say jews were guilty of something?

how has kennedy killed more than hitler

He is probably referring to abortion. 'Cause ya' know he personally orderd 12 Million abortions. :augentreher:

msmith198025
August 26th, 2009, 07:51 AM
I did not agree with many, or any, of his stances, but RIP.

Bear Paws
August 26th, 2009, 07:56 AM
You may have fooled a lot of your Massachusetts voters with your name change. But not Mary jo and 12 million babies who have been waiting for you Eddy.

Madtown HD Junkie
August 26th, 2009, 08:56 AM
RIP, prayers go out to his family.

agreed

Madtown HD Junkie
August 26th, 2009, 08:57 AM
I would love to be a fly on the wall when God says...."So tell me about the bridge thing again...."

vurbano
August 26th, 2009, 02:01 PM
BIH Teddy.

vurbano
August 26th, 2009, 02:02 PM
He is probably referring to abortion. 'Cause ya' know he personally orderd 12 Million abortions. :augentreher:Show me where he voted against it.

HDRoberts
August 26th, 2009, 02:11 PM
Show me where he voted against it.

There is a huge difference between not voting to stop them, and ordering genocide. Sadly, you are too blinded by ideology to see that.

froggigger
August 26th, 2009, 06:59 PM
I would love to be a fly on the wall when God says...."So tell me about the bridge thing again...."

I don't agree with him on much of anything but he was free to think what he wants. However, leaving that girl to slowly suffocate without trying to get help, for the sake of his political career, is unforgivable. :(

msmith198025
August 26th, 2009, 08:50 PM
I don't agree with him on much of anything but he was free to think what he wants. However, leaving that girl to slowly suffocate without trying to get help, for the sake of his political career, is unforgivable. :(

True. A big bad mark. I will respect his career, even if I do not agree with most of it.

vurbano
August 27th, 2009, 11:24 AM
There is a huge difference between not voting to stop them, and ordering genocide. Sadly, you are too blinded by ideology to see that.They are closely related. One has led to the other thanks to the libs. kennedy couldnt vote to outlaw abortion but he sure could have voted to stop funding the genocide. Hitler was also a member of the workers party very similar to the democratic Left wing. bama, Kennedy, Clinton, Schummer and Reid would all make fine Nazi's if all were white non jews.

HDRoberts
August 27th, 2009, 11:29 AM
They are closely related. One has led to the other thanks to the libs. kennedy couldnt vote to outlaw abortion but he sure could have voted to stop funding the genocide. Hitler was also a member of the workers party very similar to the democratic Left wing.

What genocide (defined as "systematic killing of a racial or cultural group") is happening?

Yeah, well, Hitler liked to vacation in the German alps, and I'm going on vacation in the German alps this fall. Guess this tenuous correlation means I;m as bad a Hitler.:augentreher:

msmith198025
August 27th, 2009, 11:30 AM
What genocide (defined as "systematic killing of a racial or cultural group") is happening?

Yeah, well, Hitler liked to vacation in the German alps, and I'm going on vacation in the German alps this fall. Guess this tenuous correlation means I;m as bad a Hitler.:augentreher:

You heathen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:05:

;)

vurbano
August 27th, 2009, 11:33 AM
What genocide (defined as "systematic killing of a racial or cultural group") is happening?

Yeah, well, Hitler liked to vacation in the German alps, and I'm going on vacation in the German alps this fall. Guess this tenuous correlation means I;m as bad a Hitler.:augentreher:
There are many contexts in which abortion can be genocide. http://www.abortionno.org/Resources/abortion.html
http://loxafamosity.com/states/0200-01.html
http://www.protectingblacklife.org/abortion_genocide/index.html

froggigger
August 28th, 2009, 07:34 PM
We don't know how much Kennedy was affected by her death, or what she'd have thought about arguably being a catalyst for the most successful Senate career in history. What we don't know, as always, could fill a Metrodome.

Still, ignorance doesn't preclude a right to wonder. So it doesn't automatically make someone (aka, me) a Limbaugh-loving, aerial-wolf-hunting NRA troll for asking what Mary Jo Kopechne would have had to say about Ted's death, and what she'd have thought of the life and career that are being (rightfully) heralded.

Who knows -- maybe she'd feel it was worth it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/melissa-lafsky/the-footnote-speaks-what_b_270298.html

This is as close as I have ever come to being speechless. Is this the typical liberal mindset? Individuality is sacrificed for the common good? Mary Jo would have sacrificed herself so she could be the "catalyst" for Kennedy's career? This type of rationalization is beyond my comprehension. Her dying may have been "worth it"?? Lafsky is a vile woman---or dumb as a rock.

sniffin aroun
August 31st, 2009, 01:50 PM
sounds about right to me. the man commits negligent homicide
to shape his career as a politician (D). what's so wrong about that?

sniffin aroun
August 31st, 2009, 02:08 PM
found this on snopes as: mostly true
http://www.snopes.com/politics/politicians/tedkennedy.asp (http://www.snopes.com/politics/politicians/tedkennedy.asp)

The Last of The Kennedy Dynasty

As soon as his cancer was detected, I noticed the immediate attempt at the "canonization" of old Teddy Kennedy by the mainstream media. They are saying what a "great American" he is. I say, let's get a couple things clear & not twist the facts to change the real history.

1. He was caught cheating at Harvard when he attended it. He was expelled twice, once for cheating on a test, and once for paying a classmate to cheat for him.

2. While expelled, Kennedy enlisted in the Army, but mistakenly signed up for four years instead of two. Oops! The man can't count to four! His father, Joseph P. Kennedy, former U.S. Ambassador to England
(a step up from bootlegging liquor into the US from Canada during prohibition), pulled the necessary strings to have his enlistment shortened to two years, and to ensure that he served in Europe, not Korea , where a war was raging. No preferential treatment for him! (like he charged that President Bush received).

3. Kennedy was assigned to Paris , never advanced beyond the rank of Private, and returned to Harvard upon being discharged. Imagine a person of his "education" NEVER advancing past the rank of Private!

4. While attending law school at the University of Virginia, he was cited for reckless driving four times, including once when he was clocked driving 90 miles per hour in a residential neighborhood with his headlights off after dark.. Yet his Virginia driver's license was never revoked. Coincidentally, he passed the bar exam in 1959. Amazing!

5. In 1964, he was seriously injured in a plane crash and hospitalized for several months. Test results done by the hospital at the time he was admitted had shown he was legally Intoxicated. The results of those tests remained a "state secret" until in the 1980's when the report was unsealed. Didn't hear about that from the unbiased media, did we?

6. On July 19, 1969, Kennedy attended a party on Chappaquiddick Island in Massachusetts . At about 11:00 PM, he borrowed his chauffeur's' keys to his Oldsmobile limousine and offered To give a ride home to Mary Jo Kopechne, a campaign worker. Leaving the island via an unlit bridge with no guard rail, Kennedy steered the car off the bridge, flipped and into Poucha Pond.

7. He swam to shore and walked back to the party passing several Houses and a fire station. Two friends then returned with him to the scene of the accident. According to their later Testimony, they told him what he already knew - that he was required by law to immediately report the accident to the authorities. Instead Kennedy made his way to his hotel, called his lawyer, and went to sleep. Kennedy called the police the next morning and by then the wreck had already been discovered. Before dying Kopechne had scratched at the upholstered floor above her head in the upside-down car. The Kennedy family began "calling in favors", ensuring that any inquiry would be contained. Her corpse was whisked out-of- state to her family before an autopsy could be conducted. Further details are uncertain, but after the accident Kennedy says he repeatedly dove under the water trying to rescue Kopechne and he didn't call police because he was in a state of shock. It is widely assumed Kennedy was drunk, and he held off calling police in hopes that his family could fix the problem overnight. Since the accident Kennedy's "political enemies" have referred to him as the distinguished Senator from Chappaquiddick. He pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, and was given a SUSPENDED SENTENCE OF TWO MONTHS. Kopechne's family received a small payout from the Kennedy's insurance policy and never sued . There was later an effort to have her body exhumed and autopsied, but her family successfully fought against this in court, and Kennedy's family paid their attorney's bills.... A "token of friendship"?

8. Kennedy has held his Senate seat for more than forty years, but considering his longevity, his accomplishments seem scant. He authored or argued for legislation that ensured a variety of civil rights, increased the minimum wage in 1981, made access to health care easier for the indigent, funded Meals on Wheels for fixed-income seniors, and is widely held as the "standard-bearer for Liberalism". In his very first Senate roll he was the floor manager for the bill that turned U.S. immigration policy upside down and opened the floodgate for immigrants from third world countries.

9. Since that time, he has been the prime instigator and author of every expansion of an increase in immigration up to and including the latest attempt to grant amnesty to illegal aliens. Not to mention the pious grilling he gave the last two Supreme Court nominees, as if he was the standard bearer for the nation in matters of "what's right". What a pompous ass!

10. He is known around Washington as a public drunk, loud, boisterous, and very disrespectful to ladies. JERK is a better description than "great American". "A blonde in every pond" was his motto. Let's not allow the spin doctors to make this jerk a hero - how quickly the American public forgets what his real legacy is. We older folks tend to forget things that happened so many years ago. Although I HAVEN'T!

HDRoberts
August 31st, 2009, 02:45 PM
Well, read the Snopes article, which corrects some of the statements. "mostly true" on snopes =/= confirmed. For instance, #5: he was a passenger on the plane, and had nothing to do with causing the crash.

sniffin aroun
August 31st, 2009, 07:46 PM
get out of it what you will. but snopes is said to be left
leaning. but that's what I have read more than once.

"and that's all I have to say about that."

but the main focus of bad press for T. Kennedy has nothing to do
with a plane crash.
;)

Salsadancer7
August 31st, 2009, 08:00 PM
This is as close as I have ever come to being speechless. Is this the typical liberal mindset? Individuality is sacrificed for the common good? Mary Jo would have sacrificed herself so she could be the "catalyst" for Kennedy's career? This type of rationalization is beyond my comprehension. Her dying may have been "worth it"?? Lafsky is a vile woman---or dumb as a rock.

It amazing me how when ONE liberal....and a far left one at that...says something that is THEIR OWN opinion....and suddenly....AND might I say, like clock work.....this comment represents EVERY SINGLE non conservative in the last 50 years...:026:

...I guess it's safe for me to state that Ann Coulter represents EVERY SINGLE conservative right of the middle...correct?:confused:

msmith198025
August 31st, 2009, 08:29 PM
Salsa, you made a blanket conservative statement recently if I am not mistaken.

It does not work no matter who makes it IMO.

sniffin aroun
August 31st, 2009, 08:40 PM
It amazing me how when ONE liberal....and a far left one at that...says something that is THEIR OWN opinion....and suddenly....AND might I say, like clock work.....this comment represents EVERY SINGLE non conservative in the last 50 years...:026:

...I guess it's safe for me to state that Ann Coulter represents EVERY SINGLE conservative right of the middle...correct?:confused:

practice reading/undertanding sentence structure much?
looks like his statement was in the form of a question.
look again. there is no "ONE OPINION" accusation in his post.

chill...........

Salsadancer7
September 1st, 2009, 07:56 AM
Salsa, you made a blanket conservative statement recently if I am not mistaken.

It does not work no matter who makes it IMO.

Yep..I did. Because those on the Right make them quite often.

THIS isn't a blanket statement/question?


Is this the typical liberal mindset?

This suggest that he has heard it before and therefore ALL liberals must think this way.

IF I were to say, "damn...do ALL conservatives think like Ann Coulter?" ....you would easily state that that quite a broad brush I just used...how is this ANY different?

Salsadancer7
September 1st, 2009, 07:58 AM
practice reading/undertanding sentence structure much?
looks like his statement was in the form of a question.
look again. there is no "ONE OPINION" accusation in his post.

chill...........

Excuse me....but I have discussed many times with Frogger, Bear and alot of the conservative folks...and it has gotten heated at times. If I wanted to be told what to do...I can call my mother...thank you...;)

msmith198025
September 1st, 2009, 09:33 AM
Yep..I did. Because those on the Right make them quite often.

THIS isn't a blanket statement/question?



This suggest that he has heard it before and therefore ALL liberals must think this way.

IF I were to say, "damn...do ALL conservatives think like Ann Coulter?" ....you would easily state that that quite a broad brush I just used...how is this ANY different?

Good point. I think it could read either way however.

sniffin aroun
September 1st, 2009, 10:05 AM
Excuse me....but I have discussed many times with Frogger, Bear and alot of the conservative folks...and it has gotten heated at times. If I wanted to be told what to do...I can call my mother...thank you...;)

if we could get her to tell you to drop dead, would you?:)

kidding salsa...kidding

Salsadancer7
September 1st, 2009, 10:16 AM
if we could get her to tell you to drop dead, would you?:)

Nope....She would tell YOU to drop dead...and in 5 languages too....but not her prized 1st born...:)

vurbano
September 1st, 2009, 10:42 AM
Kennedy and his treason. Conspiring to undermine US policy with USSR.
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/kgb-letter-details-kennedy-offer-to-ussr

HD MM
September 2nd, 2009, 09:37 AM
For those of you attempting to spit on the grave of the deceased Senator, let me respond by paying tribute. Ted Kennedy genuinely cared about public service while being rich enough that he didn't have to. He was the most successful Senator ever. By 2008 some 2,500 bills were proposed under Kennedy’s direction -- more than 300 became law -- as had 550 bills that he co-sponsored.

If you are a woman in collegiate sports, thank him. If you receive Meals on Wheels, thank him. He was one of only 23 who voted against the war in Iraq, thank him. The list goes on and on. Thank you Senator Kennedy for all you have done to make the lives of the “little man” a little better. You are sorely missed.

sniffin aroun
September 2nd, 2009, 03:54 PM
and thanks for all the deaths you had a hand in.

amen

Salsadancer7
September 6th, 2009, 01:06 AM
and thanks for all the deaths you had a hand in.

amen

Sorry...you forgot to change the name from Kennedy to Bush.

sniffin aroun
September 6th, 2009, 01:43 AM
Sorry...you forgot to change the name from Kennedy to Bush.

it took you 6 days to come up with that?
:offtopic-929432:
Is english your first language? :blah-blah-0006:

cmon, try harder, but not to hard.:toilet-5: