Texas On the Verge of Indoctrinating the Young to be Bible Thumping Repubs

[HDRoberts]

And conservatives say it's the liberals who try to indoctrinate the youth of this country. Ran across some sickening articles on what Texas wants to do with their textbooks.

First, they want to eliminate civil rights leaders and other "liberals".


Biographies of Washington, Lincoln, Stephen F. Austin? Not fit reading material for children in the early grades.

Cesar Chavez? Not worthy of his role-model status.

Christianity? Emphasize its importance.

Such suggestions are part of efforts to rewrite history books for the state's schoolchildren, producing some expert recommendations that are sure to inflame Texans, no matter their political leanings.
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Marshall, one of the expert reviewers, also recommends that school children get a better understanding of the motivational role the Bible and the Christian faith played in the settling of the original colonies. He provided multiple examples of early Americans parlaying their biblical views into the communities and governments they established — beginning with the Pilgrims who risked their lives in coming to America.

http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/news/local/50619491.html

Meanwhile, while trying to write Thurgood Marshall out of history, they are working on adding conservative role models:


The first draft for proposed standards in United States History Studies Since Reconstruction says students should be expected “to identify significant conservative advocacy organizations and individuals, such as Newt Gingrich, Phyllis Schlafly and the Moral Majority.”

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He would add James Dobson's Focus on the Family, conservative talk show host Sean Hannity and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee to the list of conservatives. Others have proposed adding talk show host Rush Limbaugh and the National Rifle Association.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6581189.html

Sickening and worrying, I think. I wish Texas would succeed and turn into "Jesusland" or whatever they would call it.

[msmith198025]

From what I have read they are thinking about teaching the Bible from a historical perspective, not preaching. As it relates to other historical events.

AND it is an elective, and NOT required.

If they keep it at that, I do not see the problem.

[froggigger]

I see no problem with teaching the history behind any religion as long as it is not advocated. Same with any other subject. Teach the unadulterated facts and both sides of any arguable issue. Just the facts, madame. Most textbooks don't even teach the true history of Thanksgiving, just some politically correct version far removed from the facts. It should not be tolerated.

[foghorn2]

Let Texas succeed from the union, the country would be better without it. :flag:

[HDRoberts]

Teaching the history of religion is one thing. Trying to depict the US as a Christian nation is another. 1st Amendment? Establishment clause? Separation of church and state? Anyone?

And you people have no issues with yanking biographies of Lincoln and Marshall, but adding stuff on the Moral Majority and Rush? Come on.

Plus, I see nowhere in these articles that this is elective. Last I checked, social studies and history are required at some point.

[msmith198025]

Teaching the history of religion is one thing. Trying to depict the US as a Christian nation is another. 1st Amendment? Establishment clause? Separation of church and state? Anyone?

And you people have no issues with yanking biographies of Lincoln and Marshall, but adding stuff on the Moral Majority and Rush? Come on.

Plus, I see nowhere in these articles that this is elective. Last I checked, social studies and history are required at some point.

I have not heard anywhere else that they were going to yank biographies of Linclon or Marshal to replace it with Rush content. I will have to do more research on it, these stories seem more like news opinion pieces than actual reporting.

The article may not mention it as being an elective, but every news broadcast that I have seen cover this did.

[vurbano]

This must be eating the liberals alive. The bible is a historical document. You can no sooner eliminate the bible as a historical document as you could eliminate the catholic church from western civilization class.

[vurbano]

Teaching the history of religion is one thing. Trying to depict the US as a Christian nation is another. 1st Amendment? Establishment clause? Separation of church and state? Anyone?

And you people have no issues with yanking biographies of Lincoln and Marshall, but adding stuff on the Moral Majority and Rush? Come on.

Plus, I see nowhere in these articles that this is elective. Last I checked, social studies and history are required at some point.

You obviously are ignorant of what seperation of church and state is for. It has nothing to do with the US not being a christian nation which it is. It is a tolerant christian nation. 76% of this nation are Christians.

[foghorn2]

You obviously are ignorant of what seperation of church and state is for. It has nothing to do with the US not being a christian nation which it is. It is a tolerant christian nation. 76% of this nation are Christians.

And when you let them control the country, you end up with the worst economy since the great deperession. Would do you expect from those who beLIEve in fairy tales. :free-happy-smileys-

[msmith198025]

And when you let them control the country, you end up with the worst economy since the great deperession. Would do you expect from those who beLIEve in fairy tales. :free-happy-smileys-

How do you account for the last 200+ years? Surely not all of them were doom and gloom, and for the most part, people of faith have been "in charge"

I am not saying people that do not believe could not have run the country as well (in fact there are some that have been in power also). Just saying that we are not in a "depression" because of christians as you imply

[vurbano]

And when you let them control the country, you end up with the worst economy since the great deperession. Would do you expect from those who beLIEve in fairy tales. :free-happy-smileys-

and when you let Obama run the country you get communism. YOu end up with no country at all.But in your tiny little mind the economy is the work of the 76% of christians in the country?:free-happy-smileys-:free-happy-smileys-

[foghorn2]

and when you let Obama run the country you get communism. YOu end up with no country at all.But in your tiny little mind the economy is the work of the 76% of christians in the country?:free-happy-smileys-:free-happy-smileys-

Under Republicans we have socialism. Socialism for the rich white christians. And thats what we still have and thats what we need to eradicate.

[foghorn2]

You obviously are ignorant of what seperation of church and state is for. It has nothing to do with the US not being a christian nation which it is. It is a tolerant christian nation. 76% of this nation are Christians.

If the country is a christain nation, then why don't we have universal heath care. Or is it that christians like to make money off peoples sufferings?

[foghorn2]

This must be eating the liberals alive. The bible is a historical document. You can no sooner eliminate the bible as a historical document as you could eliminate the catholic church from western civilization class.

The bible is not a historical document, it is Fiction. The world was not created in 7 days. Anyone with a sane mind could tell you that.

And the world is not flat either.

[fallout2600]

The bible is not a historical document, it is Fiction. The world was not created in 7 days. Anyone with a sane mind could tell you that.

And the world is not flat either.

Obviously you never studied the bible. A lot of it is historical accounts of war for territory. You must have only read the Book of Genesis. :augentreher[/quote]

[foghorn2]

Obviously you never studied the bible. A lot of it is historical accounts of war for territory. You must have only read the Book of Genesis. :augentreher:

I've read it all, but it does not account for the fact that human crap smells and looks just like dog crap. I would think gOD would have done better for us since we are a supreme being.

[fallout2600]

I've read it all, but it does not account for the fact that human crap smells and looks just like dog crap. I would think gOD would have done better for us since we are a supreme being.

Sorry, I don't believe in God. Not sure what the hell you are talking about there.

[fallout2600]

Sickening and worrying, I think. I wish Texas would succeed and turn into "Jesusland" or whatever they would call it.

You like your electricity and gasoline? I would think twice about wanting Texas to succeed.

[foghorn2]

You like your electricity and gasoline? I would think twice about wanting Texas to succeed.

Really, God put all of the Oil in Texas and the Middle East. And thats why most of the reLIEgous nut cases live there.

[froggigger]

You like your electricity and gasoline? I would think twice about wanting Texas to succeed.

You have a more intelligent conversation talking to a brick. He just wants to stir the pot like he does at CA. The name has changed but that's about it.

[fallout2600]

you have a more intelligent conversation talking to a brick. He just wants to stir the pot like he does at ca. The name has changed but that's about it.
10-4

[vurbano]

If the country is a christain nation, then why don't we have universal heath care. Or is it that christians like to make money off peoples sufferings?Because being christian does not mean you are a socialist.:augentreher:

[vurbano]

I've read it all, but it does not account for the fact that human crap smells and looks just like dog crap. I would think gOD would have done better for us since we are a supreme being.

Why would God do everything "for" us? He didnt do that in the bible.

[vurbano]

You have a more intelligent conversation talking to a brick. He just wants to stir the pot like he does at CA. The name has changed but that's about it.

You are right. its like debating a giant cartoon chicken. :free-happy-smileys-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Foghorn_Leghorn.png

[froggigger]

You are right. its like debating a giant cartoon chicken. :free-happy-smileys-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Foghorn_Leghorn.png

:free-happy-smileys- :thumbup:

[HDRoberts]

This must be eating the liberals alive. The bible is a historical document. You can no sooner eliminate the bible as a historical document as you could eliminate the catholic church from western civilization class.

Nothing wrong with teaching about the bible. The problem I have is teaching that American ideals are Christian ideals, and thus implying that one must be Christian to be American. No doubt the evangelical Christianity they try to spread.


You like your electricity and gasoline? I would think twice about wanting Texas to succeed.

I get my power from a couple coal and nuclear plants in northern Ohio. Plenty of oil elsewhere on the planet, too.

[msmith198025]

Nothing wrong with teaching about the bible. The problem I have is teaching that American ideals are Christian ideals, and thus implying that one must be Christian to be American. No doubt the evangelical Christianity they try to spread.




From my understanding they are not trying to teach it that way.
It may be a fine line to walk, and it may not work, but teaching it in a historical context, and how it applies to our nations birth is a good thing IMO.

[HD MM]

You have a more intelligent conversation talking to a brick. He just wants to stir the pot like he does at CA. The name has changed but that's about it.

Finally, we have the Liberal Version of Vurbano!!! Fair and Balanced Sonic Babble now is!!! :)

[froggigger]

Finally, we have the Liberal Version of Vurbano!!! Fair and Balanced Sonic Babble now is!!! :)

Enjoy it while you can before he switches again. In a previous incarnation, he was a rightie. :free-happy-smileys-

[sniffin aroun]

fog horn house log
got a nice ring to it

[froggigger]

fog horn house log
got a nice ring to it

The log part anyway. I just wonder if it's a floater. :toilet-5:

[sniffin aroun]

The log part anyway. I just wonder if it's a floater. :toilet-5:

:thumbup: :lol-033: I was wondering if anyone had that same thought.
about logs I mean.

me? I hope he's a batch of runny sinkers.
:)

[cybok0]

Obviously you never studied the bible. A lot of it is historical accounts of war for territory. You must have only read the Book of Genesis. :augentreher

Never read it.