Worst person of the week.

[cybok0]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#29685788

[msmith198025]

I guess Olbermann is still ill about finishing last in the ratings:free-happy-smileys-

[cybok0]

Yeah, but the team he picked won.:)

[msmith198025]

Yeah, but the team he picked won.:)

This time my friend. Be that as it may, it is not helping him to draw in the viewers. He may find himself unemployed, but hey, at least he will have more time to watch Fox news and fume

[cybok0]

This time my friend. Be that as it may, it is not helping him to draw in the viewers. He may find himself unemployed, but hey, at least he will have more time to watch Fox news and fume


:blah-blah-0006: ;)

[froggigger]

Yeah, but the team he picked won.:)

Which means we all lost. :ok-wink:

[msmith198025]

Haha

[cybok0]

Which means we all lost. :ok-wink:

Lets give him some time to try to fix this mess that Bush created, if I'm not better off than I am now, like I was with Clinton, I will say he didn't do a good job.

[msmith198025]

I agree on giving him time, I do not agree on exactly how the mess was started, although I do at least put SOME blame on the past administration. I put most on leadership before Bush however.

[cybok0]

When Clinton left office, we had a surplus in the national debt, a surplus, after one year, probly less, with Bush we were in the hole again.

Remember this?

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/09/27/clinton.surplus/

[msmith198025]

When Clinton left office, we had a surplus in the national debt, a surplus, after one year, probly less, with Bush we were in the hole again.

Remember this?

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/09/27/clinton.surplus/

I am not specifically blaming Clinton. I think it was policies put into place over the past decade or so that eroded the housing foundation, started the banking problems, ect. All that was not done on Bush's watch.

[cybok0]

I am not specifically blaming Clinton. I think it was policies put into place over the past decade or so that eroded the housing foundation, started the banking problems, ect. All that was not done on Bush's watch.

Agreed, IMO all the government can be blamed for that.

:offtopic-929432:...We are trying to buy a house, I told my wife we should of bought it when Fannie-mae was going strong, it would of been easier.:)...OK back on topic.

[froggigger]

When Clinton left office, we had a surplus in the national debt, a surplus, after one year, probly less, with Bush we were in the hole again.

Remember this?

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/09/27/clinton.surplus/

Too bad the article left out the truth. The Clinton surplus was a hoax made possible by bookkeeping gimmicks. Things like borrowing new money to pay off old loans and calling it debt reduction. If a corporation kept its books like the government kept theirs, the SEC would be on them like stink on doo-doo.

What if some company was deeply in debt and borrowed funds from the bond market, then used it to cover losses and retire some company stock which, in effect, bids up its price. Then, the company brags about its profits and surpluses. This is exactly what happened under Clinton. There were large budget deficits and the national debt increased by billions of dollars, but trust funds were used to meet expenditures and the "I have a surplus" boasts began.

The deception is obvious when you look at the national debt in those years. In 1998, the first year of the "surplus", it rose from $5.413 trillion to $5.526 trillion with a deficit of $112.9 billion. By 2000, it had risen to $5.643 trillion with another deficit of $117 billion. That ain't a surplus by any non-government definition. The Treasury treated Social Security and other trust fund monies as revenue and hailed them for generating a surplus. If a private banker treated trust fund deposits as profit and income, he'd be a criminal.

[froggigger]

Agreed, IMO all the government can be blamed for that.

:offtopic-929432:...We are trying to buy a house, I told my wife we should of bought it when Fannie-mae was going strong, it would of been easier.:)...OK back on topic.

Something we can agree on. :thumbup:

[froggigger]

Lets give him some time to try to fix this mess that Bush created, if I'm not better off than I am now, like I was with Clinton, I will say he didn't do a good job.

I'd be very interested in finding out exactly how Bush created the mess. Fill me in.

[fallout2600]

I'd be very interested in finding out exactly how Bush created the mess. Fill me in.

I would love to know that too.

Giving Bush all the credit for the mess is to assume that Bush has been president ever since WWII.

[cybok0]

I'd be very interested in finding out exactly how Bush created the mess. Fill me in.

Spending too much on a war that we never should of started.

[froggigger]

Spending too much on a war that we never should of started.

So if we hadn't gone to war the economy would be just wonderful now? :confused:

[msmith198025]

So if we hadn't gone to war the economy would be just wonderful now? :confused:
Nope

[froggigger]

Nope

You know that and I know that, but neither of us made the claim. So I'm still waiting for Cy to back up what he said.

[cybok0]

So if we hadn't gone to war the economy would be just wonderful now? :confused:

How much money a day do we spend on that war? We could of used that money for something else.

[Madtown HD Junkie]

I guess Olbermann is still ill about finishing last in the ratings:free-happy-smileys-

:thumbup::clapclap::clapclap:

[froggigger]

How much money a day do we spend on that war? We could of used that money for something else.

"Lets give him some time to try to fix this mess that Bush created"

So you're saying war spending created the mess?

[vurbano]

So if we hadn't gone to war the economy would be just wonderful now? :confused:But of course, spending money on a war has never helped this country.:stupid:

[HDRoberts]

I love how everyone just wnats to whine about Olbermann, but not comment of what he was pointing out, namely that O'Reilly said ridiculously that the war on terror "by all accounts" was won.