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Madtown HD Junkie
March 15th, 2009, 05:09 PM
Do we need another stimulus?

cybok0
March 15th, 2009, 05:14 PM
I voted yes, but instead of using the money to bail out the automakers and financial institutes, us it to create jobs.

Bear Paws
March 15th, 2009, 07:27 PM
I voted yes, but instead of using the money to bail out the automakers and financial institutes, us it to create jobs. ??? Automakers and financial institutions don't provide jobs??? Dang.... You want the government to create jobs employ everybody???

I voted no.

cybok0
March 15th, 2009, 07:37 PM
??? Automakers and financial institutions don't provide jobs??? Dang.... You want the government to create jobs employ everybody???

I voted no.

They ruined themselves, it's their fault. Let them bail themselves out.

The government can create jobs, fix the highways, bridges, help small businesses get loans.

That's right, you're a old man who doesn't need a job, let AIG, GMAC and others like them rape this country bone dry.

Hawkeye
March 15th, 2009, 08:30 PM
Automakers and financial institutions !! Let'em fail. How else would little guys get to be big guys. BUT to think government creates any thing but more bureaucrats is naive. Everything government creates they first have too take it from someone else. Then they politicize it the point it costs more. takes longer to build and the quality you would think for the overrun cost just is not there. Just look at the last stimulus along with the budget bill. Thats going to create jobs.

froggigger
March 15th, 2009, 08:49 PM
They ruined themselves, it's their fault. Let them bail themselves out.

The government can create jobs, fix the highways, bridges, help small businesses get loans.

That's right, you're a old man who doesn't need a job, let AIG, GMAC and others like them rape this country bone dry.

An increase in government spending leads to an increase in government consumption and a decrease in private saving and investment. Obama's jobs program will distort the market by shifting workers and resources from the private sector to the public sector, toward government ends rather than consumers. Jobs can't be created by government fiat. Government "invests" with blinders on because there is no free price system and profit/loss criteria. Government can't calculate or allocate funds in any semblance of a rational manner. The real solution is eliminating all current and future government "investments."

That too much thinking for you, too? :nana:

Hawkeye
March 15th, 2009, 09:00 PM
An increase in government spending leads to an increase in government consumption and a decrease in private saving and investment. Obama's jobs program will distort the market by shifting workers and resources from the private sector to the public sector, toward government ends rather than consumers. Jobs can't be created by government fiat. Government "invests" with blinders on because there is no free price system and profit/loss criteria. Government can't calculate or allocate funds in any semblance of a rational manner. The real solution is eliminating all current and future government "investments."

That too much thinking for you, too? :nana:

Right on my friend!!!:bravo-009:

Bear Paws
March 15th, 2009, 10:09 PM
They ruined themselves, it's their fault. Let them bail themselves out.

The government can create jobs, fix the highways, bridges, help small businesses get loans.

That's right, you're a old man who doesn't need a job, let AIG, GMAC and others like them rape this country bone dry.Old Man?? Keep in mind something kid.. Its obvious You don't know that which comes with age. Government can not function long with out a private sector. I'm not suggesting we bail out those that failed. Big or small.. And that applies to government too. What I'm saying is government can not create jobs infinitum and once you create government jobs it can't go back to the private sector if its not producing a product and a profit. All that grows is the size of government while the revenue declines exponentially..

A government job corp can not sustain its self. Your asking it to be a impossible perpetual motion machine ponsi scheme. Your paying government workers from taxes derived of other government workers, non of whom produce anything. . At what point do you tax so much from one worker to pay another before no one gets paid and there is nothing to buy. I saw that first hand. It was called the USSR..

cybok0
March 16th, 2009, 05:50 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#29685341

fallout2600
March 16th, 2009, 06:01 AM
The obvious answer is No. Why have another one and give the Feds a reason to raise taxes...Also, the Feds need to leave the system alone and let it correct itself.

msmith198025
March 16th, 2009, 08:00 AM
I have to vote no on this one