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msmith198025
July 15th, 2009, 09:07 AM
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aUVZeh_GVBYM
How to pay for it? More tax on the wealthy and small business. Penalties on companies for not offering coverege, and penalties on people for not having it.
Unreal



The House is also proposing a mandate on Americans above a certain income level: People would be penalized as much as 2.5 percent of their income for failure to buy health insurance. Most employers would be required to insure their employees or pay a penalty equal to as much as 8 percent of their payroll.

I just wonder what the cutoff is for small businesses that do not offer it, because many CAN NOT afford to do this.
Bear Paws
July 15th, 2009, 09:26 AM
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aUVZeh_GVBYM
How to pay for it? More tax on the wealthy and small business. Penalties on companies for not offering coverege, and penalties on people for not having it.
Unreal




I just wonder what the cutoff is for small businesses that do not offer it, because many CAN NOT afford to do this. The cut off is when they go out of business if they can not pass the cost on to the consumer..
vurbano
July 15th, 2009, 12:29 PM
And this surprises anyone? Who did you think was going to fund him communnist take over? the tooth fairy? Oh yeah Jonstad, Haller, stevenl and the other Obama voters thought that.
fallout2600
July 15th, 2009, 02:38 PM
Business as usual....move along, nothing here to see...
froggigger
July 15th, 2009, 02:40 PM
The higher taxes will not come close to covering it. Welcome to rationed health care.
fallout2600
July 15th, 2009, 03:00 PM
I just love how they keep dropping 1000+ page bills on Congress with no time to read them and research it for facts......insanity!
msmith198025
July 15th, 2009, 07:50 PM
I just love how they keep dropping 1000+ page bills on Congress with no time to read them and research it for facts......insanity!

Bingo
froggigger
July 15th, 2009, 07:59 PM
Find it here in all its glory. Peruse at your leisure. Hopefully you have a lot of leisure time. A LOT! ;)

http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_111/20090714/aahca.pdf
fallout2600
July 16th, 2009, 10:06 AM
Find it here in all its glory. Peruse at your leisure. Hopefully you have a lot of leisure time. A LOT! ;)

http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_111/20090714/aahca.pdf

Boy....the description of the bill just about says it all, eh?


To provide affordable, quality health care for all Americans and reduce
the growth in health care spending, and for other purposes.Translation: rationing.

Also, everyone needs to remember that the govt created HMOs to ration care, this would be the ultimate...
froggigger
July 16th, 2009, 10:04 PM
Boy....the description of the bill just about says it all, eh?

Translation: rationing.

Also, everyone needs to remember that the govt created HMOs to ration care, this would be the ultimate...

One hit and the nail is driven. :thumbup:
froggigger
July 17th, 2009, 08:28 PM
Page 16 of the bill:

"Except as provided in this paragraph, the individual health insurance issuer offering such coverage does not enroll any individual in such coverage if the first effective date of coverage is on or after the first day of Y1."

In other words, those who want to keep their coverage can do so, just as promised. Forget about making changes to the policy, or dropping one policy and getting a different private policy, though.

That's just page 16. How many more breaches of liberty will be found in the next 1002 pages?
vurbano
July 17th, 2009, 08:37 PM
I just love how they keep dropping 1000+ page bills on Congress with no time to read them and research it for facts......insanity!some transparency huh?
vurbano
July 17th, 2009, 08:38 PM
I'm just glad all of you people make a lot more than me and will be footing my bill.
Bob Haller
July 19th, 2009, 03:09 PM
I'm just glad all of you people make a lot more than me and will be footing my bill.

nope on page 931 addendum Y government employees are being taxed a extra 1% on their gross income to help pay for universal care..............

thats awesome I took a speed reading course years ago:)
vurbano
July 20th, 2009, 04:34 PM
nope on page 931 addendum Y government employees are being taxed a extra 1% on their gross income to help pay for universal care..............

thats awesome I took a speed reading course years ago:)I'm not a "government" employee. BTW post the page for us all to read.