View Full Version : Did Palin resigning ruin her chance at the GOP nomination?
Madtown HD Junkie
July 9th, 2009, 01:40 PM
Did Palin resigning ruin her chance at the GOP nomination?
msmith198025
July 9th, 2009, 01:41 PM
I don't know if it ruined them, but it did not help. Not that I can see anyway.
Skyhi
July 9th, 2009, 01:45 PM
Regardless of her resignation, I don't think she stood a chance of being the GOP nom. for president.
msmith198025
July 9th, 2009, 01:51 PM
Regardless of her resignation, I don't think she stood a chance of being the GOP nom. for president.
I think she stood a chance of it. I do not think she would have won an election though. Not unless something drastic happens with Obama, or she had a spectacular running mate.
HD MM
July 9th, 2009, 02:15 PM
Um yes.
Quitting sure as hell didn't help improve her chances. How could it? The knock on her before was that she was too inexperienced.
vurbano
July 10th, 2009, 07:55 AM
No. Now she can attack and tear down Obama for the next 3 years without people saying that she is ignoring her responsibilities. She will be doing exactly what the party needs. Weakening this communist and thwarting his reelection. The woman is a warrior and I am glad she is on our side.
vurbano
July 10th, 2009, 07:59 AM
Um yes.
Quitting sure as hell didn't help improve her chances. How could it? The knock on her before was that she was too inexperienced.
Only from a DEM. She has vastly more experience in governing than that moron in the whitehouse. Name one budget he ever put together before he was pres? And the Harvard law journal budget doesnt count.
HD MM
July 10th, 2009, 08:22 AM
Only from a DEM. She has vastly more experience in governing than that moron in the whitehouse. Name one budget he ever put together before he was pres? And the Harvard law journal budget doesnt count.
Ugh, do you really want to have this conversation?
Palin bounced around 5 separate colleges. The majority of them community colleges. She finally graduated after 6 years with a degree in journalism. After using her looks to pimp herself in beauty pageants, she landed a gig as a sportscaster. Palin then decided to get into politics. From city council to Mayor she rose (albeit in the desolate city of Wasilla, Alaska). Palin then ran for Governor for State of Alaska for 2 years. Then, not even finishing the 4 year term her supporters elected her to, she quit.
Omaba, the scholar, learned at esteemed private institutions such as Occidental College and Columbia University where he earned a Political Science Degree. Obama continued his education at Harvard Law School and graduated with a JD magna cum laude. His political credentials included a State Legislative Position with Illinois which lasted from 1997-2004. From 2005-2008, Obama held the position of US Senator for the State of Illinois before deciding to run for PotUS.
Tell me again V*, by looking at this brief biography lesson, who is the more credentialed person for the job? Certainly it's not the Journalist Schooled Beauty Pageant winner from Wasilla. :augentreher:
msmith198025
July 10th, 2009, 08:47 AM
Does education really relate to experience in either of their cases though?
I do not think many were questioning either of their educational backgrounds and where they got it. They were questioning their political experience at a governing level.
I personally see it as two totally different things.
Both did not have much, but on that criteria, she had more.
HD MM
July 10th, 2009, 08:53 AM
Does education really relate to experience in either of their cases though?
I do not think many were questioning either of their educational backgrounds and where they got it. They were questioning their political experience at a governing level.
I personally see it as two totally different things.
Both did not have much, but on that criteria, she had more.
You can't just pick and choose which qualifications to judge someone on. How can you just disregard a political science degree or a magna cum laude degree from Harvard? Certainly those schools enstilled a useful education that Obama has learned from to put him in the position he is now.
Sure there are holes in both Obama's and Palin's resume, but overall there's no doubt who's the better candidate. Don't you guys remember the interviews? (ahem, Katie Couric, ahem). This is not a bright woman and I am thankful she has no part in running this country.
msmith198025
July 10th, 2009, 10:15 AM
True, but Vurb, and much of the press at the time, was focusing on governing experience. Of which neither have much, but she had more. Would that make her a better leader? Hard to say.
Skyhi
July 10th, 2009, 10:29 AM
Does education really relate to experience in either of their cases though?
I do not think many were questioning either of their educational backgrounds and where they got it. They were questioning their political experience at a governing level.
I personally see it as two totally different things.
Both did not have much, but on that criteria, she had more.
Neither had "hard" experience, but at least Obama had an education that related strongly to the job he sought.
msmith198025
July 10th, 2009, 10:31 AM
Neither had "hard" experience, but at least Obama had an education that related strongly to the job he sought.
Education, he wins hands down.
Experience in the role of running community/state/nation, she had more based on her previous roles.
Bear Paws
July 10th, 2009, 11:56 AM
Neither had "hard" experience, but at least Obama had an education that related strongly to the job he sought. Maybe its me. But did I miss something last election? Wasn't Sarah Palin running against Joe Biden for VP. You know like a second banana Al Gore kind of position.. I really get annoyed by the comparisons to the top job. No one was comparing Biden to McCain..
The whole argument is really disingenuous and full of straw-men and red herrings. Yeah, yeah, McCain could have died and so could Obama and then you would have Biden.. You guys think Biden is your pick for president like you keep trying imply Palin is for us...That's why this whole attempt to compare Palin to Obama is so stupid.. Only the left could come up with something so ignorant and yet make it their main argument.
The the spin doctors and war room goons, the ones that came up with this diversion and canard know perfectly well what they created. But the rubes out here that fell for the ruse and argue it as if it was gospel is just scary. Its like I'm listening to a bunch of deliverance inbreeds playing the dueling banjos of ignorance..
msmith198025
July 10th, 2009, 12:15 PM
Bear, I think the comparison in this thread is totally valid.
The thread asked if resigning ruined her chances at a run for the GOP nom.
A poster said yes, because experience is what she was lacking, and this certainly does not add to that shortcoming.
It is only fair to say that experience is something that she has more of than the current sitting pres., at least at the time he was elected.
So perhaps this will not hurt her in that way IF she decides to go for the nomination. Perhaps it will.
I think it makes for a decent conversation though.
stevenl
July 10th, 2009, 01:24 PM
Bear we didnt compare Biden vs Palin because Biden beats her hands down.
At least with Obama they have been in the political game at least near the same amount of time, they just took different paths..
The same with why McCain was not compared to Biden. They both have been in congress since before I was born.
HD MM
July 10th, 2009, 02:04 PM
Maybe its me. But did I miss something last election? Wasn't Sarah Palin running against Joe Biden for VP. You know like a second banana Al Gore kind of position.. I really get annoyed by the comparisons to the top job. No one was comparing Biden to McCain..
The whole argument is really disingenuous and full of straw-men and red herrings. Yeah, yeah, McCain could have died and so could Obama and then you would have Biden.. You guys think Biden is your pick for president like you keep trying imply Palin is for us...That's why this whole attempt to compare Palin to Obama is so stupid.. Only the left could come up with something so ignorant and yet make it their main argument.
The the spin doctors and war room goons, the ones that came up with this diversion and canard know perfectly well what they created. But the rubes out here that fell for the ruse and argue it as if it was gospel is just scary. Its like I'm listening to a bunch of deliverance inbreeds playing the dueling banjos of ignorance..
PS, your butt-budy Vurbano is the one who brought up the comparison in the first place. :free-happy-smileys-
fallout2600
July 12th, 2009, 08:40 AM
Regardless of her resignation, I don't think she stood a chance of being the GOP nom. for president.
:thumbup::thumbup:
Personally, I think the house cleaning is beginning.
Bear Paws
July 12th, 2009, 03:42 PM
:thumbup::thumbup:
Personally, I think the house cleaning is beginning.The White House?? Say its so..
HD MM
July 13th, 2009, 11:22 AM
I wonder if he voted against his Mom in the recent election?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/12/palin-my-own-son-isnt-a-r_n_230176.html
HD MM
July 13th, 2009, 11:49 AM
Last week, Johnston said that Palin resigned due to money concerns (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/09/levi-johnston-palin-resig_n_229182.html).
On the Today Show interview this morning, Johnston continued to discuss the Palin resignation and talked about how the fame "got to her head," and also claimed she talked about doing a reality show. Johnston added that he wouldn't vote for her for president, as he's not sure she could handle the pressure.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/13/johnston-on-palin-fame-go_n_230683.html
A reality show?! Not that would be good. Palin's already admitted to be working on a book. As soon as she's officially out-of-office, nothing would surprise me. I bet she'll milk her 10 minutes of fame for all it's worth.
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