Obama approval down to 58%

[vurbano]

http://www.gallup.com/poll/121028/Obama-Job-Approval-Slips-58-First-Time.aspx

[fallout2600]

It will continue to drop, his hard core followers will continue to support, but a time will come when his policies increase taxes and price, once that hits, he's toast.

[froggigger]

It will continue to drop, his hard core followers will continue to support, but a time will come when his policies increase taxes and price, once that hits, he's toast.

:thumbup::thumbup:

[Bob Haller]

geez bush would of been thrilled with half that.........

no wait he and republicans didnt care what the voters thought..........

[Salsadancer7]

It will continue to drop, his hard core followers will continue to support, but a time will come when his policies increase taxes and price, once that hits, he's toast.

Won't have nothing to do with his policies and more to do with results. You guys harp too much on what they stand for and less on what needs to be done. IF he can turn things around....his policies won't me jack-sh**.....he turned around a bad situation or two. THAT is what counts....not his policies.

The last president, after 9/11, had a HUGE rating of approval. But it was not his policies that killed him, it was his lack of results. Just about EVERYTHING he touched....it seemd like he f**ked up.

In general, EVERYONE knows what beliefs/policies the right stands for ...and the same can be said but what the left stands for....like I said, we live in a microwave society that wants results....and fast. The unfortunate thing is, the longer it takes to turn around...the more desperate and less patient people beocme.

[fallout2600]

Won't have nothing to do with his policies and more to do with results. You guys harp too much on what they stand for and less on what needs to be done. IF he can turn things around....his policies won't me jack-sh**.....he turned around a bad situation or two. THAT is what counts....not his policies.

The last president, after 9/11, had a HUGE rating of approval. But it was not his policies that killed him, it was his lack of results. Just about EVERYTHING he touched....it seemd like he f**ked up.

In general, EVERYONE knows what beliefs/policies the right stands for ...and the same can be said but what the left stands for....like I said, we live in a microwave society that wants results....and fast. The unfortunate thing is, the longer it takes to turn around...the more desperate and less patient people beocme.

Policies influence results, so I'm not sure your point means anything. Sounds like an excuse to me.

I agree with the microwave society analogy, but remember this, Obama is the one that set those expectations in people's mind in order to get elected, now he is dealing with reality.

[Bear Paws]

Policies influence results, so I'm not sure your point means anything. Sounds like an excuse to me.

I agree with the microwave society analogy, but remember this, Obama is the one that set those expectations in people's mind in order to get elected, now he is dealing with reality.
You beat me to it Fallout.. Obama ran as the the 10KW Microwave..and He can't can't even warm my coffee.

Salsa. I can not think of one thing the he has "turned around" to the good.. I'm a action and a results orientated guy but I'm not of the "look like your doing something" or "just do something, even if its wrong" camp either, and not only do I see no positive results but rather I see negitive results.

I'm trying to figure out what your trying to say by differentiating between policy and results. Like Fall says policies influence results. What needs to be done is not what he is doing. All that needs to be done other than less spending is lower taxes across the board.. Your right.. That's a conservative policy and isn't gunna happen. Just because Obama and his minions in the Congress has implemented policy you like does not make them the right policies and they will cause unintended results.. Well then again... maybe not. The liberals want us in deeper debt, higher taxes, and less incentive.

Pretty soon your gunna run out Bush Blame and will need to give this guy blame for his failures along with the non-existent success your trying to create out of whole cloth for him. There is just so long even the most raven lunatic liberal can justify to keep blaming Bush for this guys colossal failures.

[Salsadancer7]

Policies influence results, so I'm not sure your point means anything. Sounds like an excuse to me.

I agree with the microwave society analogy, but remember this, Obama is the one that set those expectations in people's mind in order to get elected, now he is dealing with reality.

You can have all kinds of policies.....but you don't have the proper backing...ALA Congress and the House....they mean nothing. Not an excuse....it's a simple fact.

Obama, like every other president before him, promises what they WANT to DO and are PLANNING to do.....but in the end, everyone knows full well they need backing. So he promised just like EVERY SINGLE president before him.

[fallout2600]

You can have all kinds of policies.....but you don't have the proper backing...ALA Congress and the House....they mean nothing. Not an excuse....it's a simple fact.

Obama, like every other president before him, promises what they WANT to DO and are PLANNING to do.....but in the end, everyone knows full well they need backing. So he promised just like EVERY SINGLE president before him.

B/c in reality the left and right never wins, the middle ground is usually what is taken b/c they represent the real majority and the most common sense. So, you can expect most of Obama's left wing "policies" to fail or lack backing as did his predecessors right wing "policies". Politics aside, it always comes back to reality and the silent majority.

[vurbano]

SO the increased power /fuel bills everyone will see and the increased cost of good and services due to his energy plan is not a tax increase on the middle class?

[msmith198025]

You can have all kinds of policies.....but you don't have the proper backing...ALA Congress and the House....they mean nothing. Not an excuse....it's a simple fact.

Obama, like every other president before him, promises what they WANT to DO and are PLANNING to do.....but in the end, everyone knows full well they need backing. So he promised just like EVERY SINGLE president before him.

And people give a pass if they voted for said party (most anyway)

THAT is the problem. That and thinking half the crap is possible in the first place.

[fallout2600]

SO the increased power /fuel bills everyone will see and the increased cost of good and services due to his energy plan is not a tax increase on the middle class?

Nope, its worse than that, its an increase on everyone.

But don't jump the gun, this thing has to get out the Senate first.

[msmith198025]

B/c in reality the left and right never wins, the middle ground is usually what is taken b/c they represent the real majority and the most common sense. So, you can expect most of Obama's left wing "policies" to fail or lack backing as did his predecessors right wing "policies". Politics aside, it always comes back to reality and the silent majority.

True.

To bad there are no true middle ground politicians. Not really.

[fallout2600]

True.

To bad there are no true middle ground politicians. Not really.

Most of them in Congress are, people just have to email bomb them and pick up the phone. They will respond if pressured. Its our job to keep them in the middle.

[msmith198025]

Nope, its worse than that, its an increase on everyone.

But don't jump the gun, this thing has to get out the Senate first.

I hope someone wakes up here. I would say it is too obvious to make it out, but hey....I still cant get over what happend in the house last minute. They simply DO NOT CARE.

[vurbano]

I hope someone wakes up here. I would say it is too obvious to make it out, but hey....I still cant get over what happend in the house last minute. They simply DO NOT CARE.Those voting on it have more than enough money to pay the tax and do not give a rats ass.